MINUTES
STATE OF
NORTH CAROLINA BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
COUNTY OF
HENDERSON APRIL 22, 2004
The Henderson County Board of Commissioners met for a
special called meeting at 6:00 p.m. in the Auditorium at West Henderson High
School. This was a continuation of the
special called meeting held on April 1, 2004, regarding Special Use Application
#SU-03-01 and Related Variance Application #BOCV-03-01 – Motorcross Racing
Facility.
Present were: Chairman Grady Hawkins, Commissioner
Larry Young, Commissioner Bill Moyer, Commissioner Charlie Messer, Commissioner
Shannon Baldwin, County Attorney Angela S. Beeker, and Clerk to the Board
Elizabeth W. Corn.
Also present were:
Planning Director Karen C. Smith and Zoning Administrator Brad Burton.
This is a verbatim transcript.
The term “members” refers to the members of the Board
of Commissioners.
Chairman: “Ladies
and gentlemen, I’d like to remind you that this is a continuation of the
Quasi-Judicial proceeding to consider Variance Application #BOCV-03-01 and
Special Use Permit Application #SU-03-01, submitted by Michael Edney on behalf
of George Bennett. The subject of both
the variance application and the special use permit application is whether a
motor cross facility may be operated on that property located at 198 North
Edgerton Road, Hendersonville, North Carolina.
A Quasi-Judicial proceeding, much like a court proceeding, is a
proceeding in which one’s individual rights are being determined. The proceeding will be conducted under the Henderson
County Board of Commissioners’ Rules of Procedure for Quasi-Judicial
Proceedings and those Special Rules of Procedure previously adopted by the
Board of Commissioners for tonight’s meeting.
A summary of the rules and procedure for Quasi-Judicial Proceedings and
the Special Rules of Procedure are available for anyone who wishes a copy. I want to remind everyone that under these
rules, not all persons here this evening will be allowed to speak. Parties will be allowed to call a maximum of
25 witnesses. If you are not a party or
you are not called by a witness by one of the parties, you will not be allowed
to participate in tonight’s proceedings unless you are called on by the Board
of Commissioners. At the last meeting
all the parties to the proceeding were identified, and Mrs. Corn, would you
call out the names of the parties so we can see who is in attendance.
Mrs. Corn: We
have Karen Smith, George Bennett, J. Michael Edney, Gerald Nash, Park Ridge
Hospital, Ken Cobb, Dorothy Freeman, Frank Cox, Chuck Pressley, Janice Moore,
Mark Wright, Douglas Dunlap, Dave Sherlin, James Owen and Bill Harper, Jr.
Chairman: I
want to remind everyone that on April 1, the motion was made to close the application
to become a party. All parties should
have submitted a witness list and informed us of your major and minor
witnesses. Again the parties are
limited to five major witnesses with unlimited time to speak and 20 minor
witnesses, who will be limited to three minutes each. The witnesses may not share their time with one another. If a party wishes to also be a witness, the
party must be identified as one of the 25 witnesses. All persons who testify this evening, whether parties or not,
must sign a written affirmation. Those
persons called to testify will be required to give their affirmation to Mrs.
Corn before they give their testimony. Mrs.
Corn has blank affirmations for anyone who needs them.
Just an overview of the meeting this
evening and where we stopped on April 1st. The Petitioner will be allowed to complete the presentation of
his case. After the Petitioner
finishes, anyone else who has expressed a desire to be a party and who the
Board has recognized as a party will then be allowed to present their evidence
and call their witnesses. After all the
evidence and testimony has been received, each party will be given the
opportunity to ask questions or cross-examine any other party or witnesses
testifying in the proceeding. Board
Members may ask questions of any person testifying at any time during the
proceedings. After the evidence is
presented, the Board will discuss the issues raised and make a decision. The Board’s decision must be made in writing
within 45 days of the close of the hearing. As the Board is aware of any
information which any of the Board Members have already received concerning
this proceeding, including site visits or discussion with anyone, it must be
revealed at the beginning of the proceedings.
If any of the Board members has received any other information concerning
the issue to be considered in today’s proceeding, please state it at this time.
B. Moyer: We
did get this letter. I did happen to read
the first paragraph though, if you want to introduce it into the record?
Chairman: If
you would.
B. Moyer: This
is a letter from R. B. and Grace Smith to the Henderson County Board of
Commissioners. Mrs. Corn has a copy of it.
Atty Beeker: OK.
Chairman: Any
others? O.K. we will continue with our
presentation of evidence, Mr. Edney.
M. Edney: Mr.
Chairman, Commissioners, if I may, I begin by offering into evidence the GIS
Map which is laying here in front of you folks. It was prepared by County GIS office today. We offer it, not for any specific purpose
other than since at the last meeting, each Board member said that they had not
been out to the property – to give the Board an overall view of the
property. And you can see the two lines
on it do reflect the distances from our property to Heritage Hills, which is
the closest nursing home facility to the property. So, I would offer that at this time. And I don’t know if anybody would object to that. If not, I would ask the Commissioners to
review it briefly now, and obviously later, look at it more.
Chairman: Can
you pass it up to me? And, Mike, you say
the furthest nursing home is the one indicated here is Heritage Hills.
M. Edney: My
understanding, the closest one to it , yeah – would be Heritage Hills, and we
have two measurements. One is from the
door to where the motor cross actually is, and the other measurement is
property line to property line.
Chairman: And
what is that distance?
M. Edney: Property
line to property line, I think is 2400 and some odd feet, but then actually
from the door of the facility to the track was like 3500 feet.
Atty Beeker: Mr.
Chairman, you may want to point out that if any of the parties at any time wish
to object to anything that’s going on, they can come up to the mic and do so.
Chairman: Does
everybody understand that?
L. Young: Y’all
want to look at this a minute?
Members: Yes.
Atty Beeker: Mr.
Chairman, is it the pleasure of the Board to admit this into evidence?
Chairman: Yes.
Atty Beeker: Is
it too far away?
M. Edney: Can’t
hear me or can’t hear them?
MICS MOVED A LITTLE CLOSER.
B. Moyer: Mike
if you would. Why don’t you take the
map and enter in the exact distances shown on the map, rather than your
estimates so that we have the exact, if you don’t mind.
M. Edney: Let
me do that. The exact distance from the property lines of Heritage Hills to Mr.
Bennett’s property is 2,457.4 feet and from the track area to the front door of
Heritage Hills would be 3,622.09 feet.
B. Moyer: Thank
you.
M. Edney: Next,
I would like to offer if I may Mr. Chairman, an aerial photograph, and I’ve got
several copies of it. There was some
discussion as to what the summertime vegetation looked like on the property and
this gives a good representation of that, so I would offer that at this time.
Chairman: Anybody
have any objection to that?
Atty Beeker: Mr. Chairman, I’m going to put this
over here if any of the parties want to come look at it, and then I’ll make
sure one of those gets back.
Chairman: Are
these all the same pictures Mike?
M. Edney: They
are, yes sir. And then, Mr. Chairman, at this point, I would like to re-call as
a witness one of our major witnesses, Mr. Ben Sikorski, who will testify about
some sound testing that was done on the property pursuant to a stipulation with
the courts. I think for the record, we will remind Mr. Sikorski that he is still under oath from our last
hearing.
Witness Sikorski: On
Tuesday from 5:00 to 7:00, they allowed us to have approximately 15 to 20
motorcycles out there operating for sound tests. I’ve got a list of the ages of the riders and the types of
vehicles they were riding as far as cc’s., variety – I think the smallest was
an 80 cc and the largest a 450 - to give it a broad range so we have some of
everything. Definitely did not bring
out the small guns for this. This was –
the loudest ones that we could get are out there. To have something to base this on, before we ever cranked the
bikes, standing in the parking lot, with just the conversation and general outdoor
noise, it was 65 decibels. With the
bikes running on the track in the parking lot, about 76 decibels. 100 feet off the track, it dropped to 74 decibels. At 400 feet to 67. Down
to 63 decibels at 800 feet. Went into
-left the property at that point and went into Heritage Hills. The bikes were barely discernable and had a
reading of 61 decibels was the peak reading.
In Foxwood community, not discernable, 54 decibels was the noise level
there. In Cannon Woods, 61 decibels. The county attorneys as well as some of the
opposing parties were there to witness that the bikes were running, if there is
any concern. In Grimesdale, again the
bikes not even discernable, and a decibel reading of 62. Just some comparison readings we took on the
way there and back. 200 feet off of
I-26 was 76 decibels, which is higher than our decibel reading at 100 feet
away. The gas station, Enmark gas station
there on 25, 73 decibels, and just a UPS truck happened to be driving by, so we
jumped out and got a reading as it went by – 83 decibels.
Chairman: What
did you take the readings with – what kind of instrument?
Witness Sikorski: It’s
a decibel reader, decibel meter.
Anybody can pick them up. The
one we used was a Radio Shack brand, just because it’s generic, easy to come
by. Anybody can get one. I think Mr. Bennett actually brought that with
him, if anybody wants to – is that in the parking lot Andy? Am I allowed to ask questions? I think we have it on site if anybody wants
to inspect it or…
Chairman: Anyone
have any questions.
C. Messer: Was
that just one bike?
Witness Sikorski: No,
that was 15 to 20 bikes.
C. Messer: Running…?
Witness Sikorski: Consistently.
M. Edney: What
different size bikes were they?
Witness Sikorski: From
80’s to 450’s, 250’s, 125’s, 85’s, 400’s and a couple 80’s.
Atty Beeker: Did
you want to submit that list into evidence?
M. Edney: Yeah,
we can enter the list and the documentation showing the numbers, into
evidence.
C. Messer: How
many 450’s would you say was there, out of those 15 to 20 bikes?
Witness Sikorski: One
450, one 400, one, two, three, four, five, six. I think there was six 250’s, which is the 2-stroke version. 250-2 stroke, 450-4 stroke are the
comparable bike. Those are both the
biggest bikes out there. I can actually
count it if I can get a pen real quick.
Chairman: Any
objection to entering this into evidence?
M. Edney: There
appears to be somebody in the audience.
Audience Member: CANNOT
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ASK.
Chairman: We’ll
get that in cross-examination.
Witness Sikorski: I’m
counting eight 250’s.
Chairman: If
you’ll give your report to Mrs. Corn, we’ll enter that into evidence.
M. Edney: Yeah,
give your documents to the Clerk here in the middle. At this time, I would
recall Mr. Halsey to discuss his findings and observations during the
testing.
Chairman: O.K.
Witness Halsey: Good evening gentlemen:
Members: Good
evening.
Witness Halsey: I hope everybody is well. During the test period, I was particularly
interested in the sound as it effected the Heritage Hills area and also over in
Cannon Drive and Cannon Woods, and I went to the Heritage facility and stood
for a period of 30 minutes in two areas, one right in front of the door that
goes into the medical facility and then
I spent about 10 or 15 minutes on the other side where many of those who live
there come to have dinner in the dining facility, and I invited a gentleman,
whose name is Abercrombie, who lives there, if he might step outside the door
next to me and listen to see if he heard anything. And I can report to you emphatically that while I was there at
Heritage Hills during that time when motorcycles were running, that any sound
of a motorcycle was not discernable in any fashion whatsoever to my ears and
also Mr. Abercrombie advised that he heard nothing. The only noise that I heard, and I was trying to hear as hard as
I could, would have been the chirping of a bird and the operation of an air
conditioning unit on top of the building.
After I had concluded that, I went over to Cannon Woods and in the area
of Florida Avenue, I believe it is on my chart, Florida Drive. I turned in because I noticed three or four
people who, some of them I think are here tonight, and got out of my truck and
stopped and asked if we might engage in some type of conversation about the
noise level, and if my recollection is correct, I believe one individual asked
me at the time when I stepped out of my truck, when the test was going to
begin, and I told them at that time that the test had been underway for an
hour. I suggested that they get in
their car and come down to the facility and have a look for themselves, which I
believe three of them actually did. But
on that side of Brookside, there was no noticeable motorcycle noise. And then I went down into Cannon Woods, and
several places where the road bends and at the end of the cul-de-sac, and I
stayed there in each spot about 10 minutes, and there was no discernable
motorcycle noise. And then I engaged a person who lives several houses, I
believe, from one of the individuals who has been rather outspoken about the
track, and I asked him if he heard any discernable noise that represented a
motorcycle, and he said no. He could
not, in fact, hear any noise. And the
result of all this, is that I was so impressed by the fact that noise, I don’t
believe is an issue, that I went to see Mr. Edney today, and suggested that we
have those who are opposed occupy a position on a committee in the future and
that perhaps we might be able to secure some type of a temporary permit,
perhaps for a period of six months, during which time there would be no
motorcycle riding. There would be no
events that patrons would attend, and that the people who live in that area,
could, in fact, have a committee and from that committee, we would decide, from
them, not from us, but from them, we would decide what the density could be for
the track at any given time. In other
words, remove any possibility that Mr. Bennett or myself or anybody else, would
try to pull something over on these people, which is, I believe I’ve addressed
that issue before. Because we are, and
especially myself, I’m as keenly aware of this noise issue as any. So as we proceed tonight, and the others
come to express their opposition, I want them to know that we offer a hand of
compromise to say that we’re perfectly willing to put the operation of this
track in their hands. And I can
emphatically say that I believe that I can operate from that facility a
noise-free and actually guarantee a noise-free environment to any resident that
lives in that area, if in fact, these people will cooperate with us and work
with us through a hot line telephone on the property during any hour that we
would operate. They could call that
number. A person would come to their
property. An observation would be made
by four ears instead of two, and if it was decided that yes we can hear, then
an adjustment would be made until we could, in fact, find an operational level,
wherein there would be no noise from this facility. Because this is such a unique piece of property, I fully believe that
that is capable of being achieved. I
don’t want to take any more time, but as anybody comes to address the issue of
the noise, I believe in my mind, based on our tests, that we can control it,
and, in fact, have a noise-free environment to any residents in the area. Thank you sir.
Chairman: Mr.
Halsey, before you leave can I ask you one question? Do you know if the atmospheric conditions and topography has any
effect on how the noise is disseminated from the source?
Witness Halsey: If you will recall, I had
established contact with a PhD. in California, in Clairmont, California, who is
the world’s recognized expert on motorcycle exhaust noise, and, in fact, was
the author of the SAE-1287 manual that determines motorcycle exhaust noise by
the motorcycle industry, and in further conversation with him through e-mail, I
asked him if he could provide me with a document which would stipulate
emphatically and which would be allowed in a court or in some type of a
proceeding, if there was any type of a document that would stipulate exactly
from what distance a motorcycle noise would evaporate. And he came back and said to me, there is no
such document because of the variables about which you speak. And so that’s why an exact on-site test is
the only way that you can establish criteria that is acceptable in any type of
a legal proceeding, because whatever is submitted as being admissible from
another area, a sharp attorney will inject the issue of temperature, moisture,
wind, topography change – all of those factors, and that came from him. So I don’t know, Mr. Chairman, if I’ve
answered your question or not.
Chairman: You
did, thank you very much.
M. Edney: Thank
you Mr. Halsey. Let me just ask, is
there anybody that signed up to be a witness for us who was here last time who
did not get to speak, who left early.
B. Moyer: Can
I ask Mike a question before he starts?
M. Edney: Oh,
I’m sorry.
B. Moyer: Mike,
are you gonna... it’s good to hear Mr. Halsey and the other people. Are you going to call any of the people he
referred to, because you know the problem with the statements he made.
M. Edney: No,
I’m not. The man’s in California. We don’t have any experts.
B. Moyer: Mr.
Abercrombie, for instance?
M. Edney: Yeah.
I understand your problem but…
B. Moyer: We
have the right to cross-examine those people.
That testimony is, at best, hearsay.
M. Edney: And
I agree with you 100%.
Chairman: Call
your next witness.
M. Edney: I
believe everyone on our side has spoken to this point. We’ll rest our primary case, allow the other
parties to present their evidence and we’ll be prepared to rebut whatever they
present.
Chairman: Thank
you. Mrs. Smith, are you ready to
proceed.
K. Smith: Thank
you Mr. Chairman. I don’t want to
duplicate much of what I said in my opening remarks, but if I do, I
apologize. I got to a certain point in
those on the April 1st meeting.
Following the opening of the hearing on April 1st, I gave a
brief summary of the background information on the subject Special Use Permit
Application and Variance Applications, as amended, and at that time, I
submitted a packet of information and asked that it be entered into the hearing
record, and it was accepted at that time.
The packet includes a memorandum that I wrote to the Board, which
contained background information, which I did review previously, as well as my
comments regarding the compliance of the applications with the Henderson County
Zoning Ordinance as well as recommendations from the Planning Board. I did want to note that in my opening
comments, I failed to mention that we did post notices of the hearing on the
property. It was included in your memo,
but I wanted to mention that the Zoning Administrator did do that on March 16th
in accordance with the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance. I wanted to start off by going a little bit
over a general site description. Again,
some of this you may have heard before.
The property is located in a county I-2, general industrial zoning
district, and you can see that on Attachment 8 if you’re not familiar with it,
and it’s located within the Mountain Home Industrial Park. The subject property, as you’ve heard
previously, is bordered by Mud Creek on the northeast, and if you look at
Attachments 5 and 9, you see that the property is owned by Branford Wire &
Manufacturing as well as Carolina Industries, Incorporated, both of which
contain industrial uses adjoining the subject property on the southeast. Adjacent to the property on the southwest
are two vacant lots owned by David and Rebecca Neighbors, as well as a tract
that is owned by CAB Properties, and that contains mini-storage units. Properties on the northwestern side include
a tract that has some residential uses. It’s mainly undeveloped right where it
adjoins the subject property, and that is owned by James Owens. There is also a vacant tract listed under
Nancy P. Rhodes, Executrix, and Estelle Parks, as well as a mainly undeveloped
tract owned by Clement Pappas.
Attachment 10 shows you an aerial view of the property. Actually, the large map that Mr. Edney
submitted is probably even better to look at for that purpose. And I was also going to give – the Clerk has
a color photo, it’s the same photo that Mr. Edney just entered, so you have
that in the record as well. You have a
black and white copy of that color photo in your packet. If you recall from my opening statements, we
are talking now about the revised site plan, which in your packet, is
Attachment 4-B. We’ll be using that for
reference as I go through my comments.
The revised site plan shows that much of the property is within the
100-year flood plain, and the applicants did submit a map showing flood plain
areas. We also included in the packet
in Attachment 11, a map showing from our Geographic Information System, the
relationship of the flood prone areas to the subject property. We also showed, in Attachment 12, the U.S.
Geological Survey Map of the area which is basically included in there, I’m
sure, as you can imagine, if it’s flood plain, it’s fairly flat. And yes, that
particular site shown on that map is flat. The application materials, including
that revised site plan, show that the motor cross facility will have two
tracks. A 3250-foot long main track and
a 930-foot long beginner track. And the
site plan, I believe I reviewed this before, shows the gravel patron area, a
parking area, a gravel drive, a registration pavilion, concession stands,
portable toilets and a hand-wash station.
Water and sewage disposal service for the site is private. There is a City of Hendersonville water line
available on North Edgerton Road, and the closest public sewer, which is a
forced main, is also on North Edgerton Road.
The packet that I gave you has photos of the subject property and the
vicinity that were taken by the Henderson County Zoning Administrator on
January 16, 2004. They have notes
attached to them. I’m not going to go
over them in detail, but if you have any questions as we go through this, I’m
happy to refer back to them. I’ve
reviewed the Special Use Permit application and the variance applications for
compliance with the Zoning Ordinance, and you have my comments in the
memo. My review focused on how these
applications comply with the specific site standards for motor sports
facilities, the general site standards that apply and all special uses and
other requirements that are applicable to the application from the Zoning
Ordinance. I have included where
applicable, or where I thought it was necessary, references to the specific
sections of the Zoning Ordinance in the packet for reference, and I have a copy
of the Ordinance here, if you or any of the other parties need it. As you will see in the packet, to assist
with my review. I did ask for comments from other review agencies, which is typical
when we review applications for special use permits. I understand that such information could be considered hearsay,
but I wanted you to have the same information that I presented to the Planning
Board. I wanted to start off by
reviewing the requirements for motor sports facilities that are contained
within the I-2 general industrial district.
Section 200-24F(2) of the Zoning Ordinance allows motor sports
facilities as a special use in I-2, and based on the application materials, the
definitions in the Zoning Ordinance for motor sports facility and for racing
events, the proposed motor cross racing facility would be classified as a motor
sports facility by the Zoning Ordinance.
S. Baldwin: Karen,
what section was that?
Karen Smith: If
you’ll look on Page 2 of my memo, it refers to 200-24F(2). That is the I-2 district special use
section, and then the definitions for motor sports facility is from 200-7 in
the definition of racing event. I did
not include the I-2 text, but I have that Ordinance with me if you would like
to see that.
Chairman: They’re
on these green copies.
Karen Smith: Oh,
O.K. great, great. Motor sports
facilities are divided into two categories.
You have major motor sports facilities and minor facilities. For purposes of the Zoning Ordinance, and
these definitions are provided on Page 6 of my memo. And as you will note from those definitions, the main difference
between these two types of facilities lies in the seating or standing
capacity. Major motor sports facilities
have a seating or standing capacity of 1000 people or more, while for the
minor, that is less than 1000 people, and the Ordinance defines standing
capacity as three persons per 200 square feet of space directed to patron
use. The application materials propose
a maximum occupancy of 300 patrons and riders and the revised site plan shows
20,000 square feet will be devoted to patron use, and so based on that
information, I determined that, of course, the proposed facility, will be
classified as a minor motor sports facility.
So, as I review these specific site standards, we’re reviewing it based
on the fact that it is a minor facility.
The comments that are in my memo, as I said, are concerned with
compliance with the Zoning Ordinance. I
wanted to, in particular, draw the Board’s attention to comments 3-D, which
starts on the bottom of Page 7, which is with regard to the minimum set-back
and also to comment 3-K, and I’ll go over these in a few moments, but 3-D and
3-K - 3-D deals with the minimum set-back requirement and 3-K deals with the
minimum separation from health care facilities. The reason I draw your attention to those, is because those are
the items on which the applicant has asked for a variance. And aside from those two comments, the rest
of my comments in the memo, are really relevant only if the Board of
Commissioners decides to grant the variances.
I say that because many of the comments noted in my memo have to do with
the applicant providing some additional information, or clarification, and they
suggest conditions that would be applicable to the special use permit, but you
can’t get to the special use permit until you decide what you’re going to do
about the variances. So again, I’m
going to stress that the two variance items are really the critical pieces of
my review. I’m going to try to
summarize my comments. You’ve got a lot
of pages there, and I hope that in the interest of time, where I summarize, you
can consider my full comments in the packet to be a full comment. O.K., for minor motor sports facilities, and
I’m starting on the bottom of Page 3 of the memo, if people are following
along. The first specific site standard
has to do with hours of operation, and the Ordinance specifies what those hours
of operation can be, 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.; that racing events can be
conducted for a maximum of three consecutive days, a maximum of five days in
any calendar week, and a maximum of six hours per day. And the main point I
wanted to make about this site-specific standard is that we still need a little
bit of clarification from the applicant about the hours of operation. You’ve got revised application materials
that say they will abide by the schedule that’s stated in the Ordinance. During the February 3rd Planning
Board Meeting, the applicant stated the hours of operation would be defined and
that they would be a condition of the permit, and then later proposed that the
hours of operation would be from 10:00 a.m. to until 30 minutes before sun set. You can see that in the Minutes on Page 9
from the Planning Board Meeting, and then at the April 1st portion
of this hearing, the applicant talked a little bit about some of the hours of
operation, and so with regard to this item, my comment has to do with that the
hours of operation, whatever they be, be a condition of the permit, if
granted. And if they are more
condensed, then the Ordinance allows again that those be a condition of the
permit. The second specific site
standard has to do with fencing. The
Ordinance requires that secure fencing be required. The applicant has indicated in the application materials that
they will meet the fencing requirement.
There are some areas in the existing fence line around the property that
do not meet the requirements and also the size of the openings between –
they’ve got a wire fence around the property now. The openings are too large to meet our Ordinance
requirements. And so, my main comment
here would be that if the special use permit is granted, Commissioners should
consider making the fencing requirements a condition of the permit, and we
would ask that the applicant give some additional information as to how they
will meet the fencing requirement. The
third specific site standard has to do with the buffer, and this is an item, if
you saw the original application, the applicant originally requested a variance
on, but they have now redesigned the track as shown on the revised site plan so
that a variance is no longer needed on the buffer item, and that was confirmed
at the Planning Board Meeting on February 3rd, and you did not
advertise for a variance on the buffer.
So they have indicated that they can meet the buffer requirement. I just wanted to be sure to get that in the
record. The next item has to do with
the setback, and this is one of the two variance items. It appears from the application materials
that it is impossible for the applicant to meet the 500-foot setback
requirement for a minor motor sports facility on the subject property. The applicant has proposed on the revised
site plan, a 100-foot setback on all sides.
I think your memo said sites.
All sides of the property, and that basically coincides with the
100-foot buffer requirement. At the
Planning Board Meeting on February 3rd, the applicant confirmed that
he is now seeking a 400-foot variance from the 500-foot minimum setback
requirement on all sides of the property.
Because the minimum setback requirement cannot be met on the property,
the special use permit application cannot be granted without a variance being
granted. Specific site standards such
as the setback were established to help mitigate the impacts of proposed uses
such as motor sports facilities on neighborhoods. The 400-foot setback variance requested is quite large in
relation to the 500-foot minimum standard, and as I noted earlier, it acts
really as a way to exclude motor sports facilities from the subject
property. When it comes to variances,
the burden is on the applicant to demonstrate to the Board of Commissioners how
the variance application affirmatively satisfies all of the findings that the
Board has to make in order to grant a variance, and I reviewed those findings
at your April 1st meeting.
For reference, they’re on page 3 of my memo, they’re in Attachment 1-H
and they’re also in Section 200-78(7) of the Zoning Ordinance. In my opinion, the applicant has not
provided, yet, sufficient reasons that will allow the Board to grant the
setback variance, based on the findings the Board has to make. The next specific site requirement is parking,
and that requirement was met except that there was a question that had come up
based on some previous use of the property prior to them making application,
where there was parking that was taking place on the Branford Wire property,
and so, the applicant intends to provide all of their parking on site, but I
would suggest if the special use permit is granted, that the Board of
Commissioners impose a condition to require that the parking be located on the
subject property. The loading
requirements which is the next specific site standard have been met or
addressed. The next one, which is G, is
the access road corridor. They have to have a minimum of 20-foot travel way
within a 45-foot wide access road corridor, and that has been shown on the
revised site plan. The only issue that
staff had brought up with regard to that had to do with the timing of when they
would get the travel way upgraded to meet those standards of the
Ordinance. And so, we would ask that
the applicant address when that will be upgraded, and if the permit is granted,
that the Board make that construction and the timing of it such that it be
constructed and approved prior to operation of the facility. Next site specific standard has to do with
fire protection, and as you have seen from the memo, according to review by the
Fire Marshall, they have satisfied the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance
with regard to that matter. The next
site specific standard is noise mitigation, and the Ordinance says that noise
mitigation shall be required. With
regard to this item, the application requirements, which come a little later in
the Ordinance, require that a noise mitigation plan be submitted to the Board
of Commissioners for approval, and based on the application materials themselves,
it says that peak noise emission from the proposed use is estimated to be 60 or
70 decibels, and that noise mitigation will be provided through space and
natural vegetation, and the materials also state that noise containment is
accomplished through distance to working areas. I don’t know if that is a sufficient noise mitigation plan that
the Board can approve, particularly because of the variance requests, that have
to do with the setback and the two mile separation from health care
facilities. The applicant should
address this issue in more detail as far as their noise mitigation plan. If the special use permit is granted, the
Board would need to approve the applicant’s noise mitigation plan. Lighting is the next site specific standard,
and the application materials indicate they don’t propose to operate in the
evening so as long as that is the case, that standard has been satisfied. The next one, which is K, has to do with
separation from health care facilities and a minimum two mile separation is the
requirement per the Zoning Ordinance. I
provided a definition of separation. It
talks about that no portion of the property on which the use is proposed can be
within the two miles of the approximate center of what we call the protected
use, or in this case, the health care facilities. The definition of health care facility has also been provided in
the packet. And the applicants provided
a map from the Henderson County Assessors Office with their application
materials showing a radius, and it had points on it showing the location of
health care facilities, and the map from the Assessor’s Office is a
requirement. Staff – that map actually,
once it was created by the County GIS Department, the file I believe was
deleted so we recreated one so that we could label the facilities, and you have
a copy of that in your packet. That
would be Attachment 16. I believe the
applicant’s map showed six facilities, and the one that we prepared later
actually showed nine. And I think part
of that has to do with, there’s a difference in ownership with the Heritage
Hills facility. It’s actually two
separate owners on the health care side of that, and it also – this is a
technical thing, but when GIS plots the facilities, it plots it as a point, and
I think on the applicant’s map, it plotted all of the facilities associated
with the Layman Foundation, and some of the properties up there near Fletcher
Academy plotted on top of each other, and when we did it, we were able to
spread those out. So that’s why there’s
– the facilities were actually there on the applicant’s map, they were just
covered up from what we can tell. The
applicant has requested a significant variance from the minimum separation
requirements per the addendum to the variance application that we received on
January 15, 2004. That’s Attachment
3. The applicant is requesting that the
separation from health care facilities be reduced from two miles, which is
10,560 feet, to one-third of a mile or 1,760
feet, and basically that’s a one and two-thirds mile, or 8,800 foot
variance. Because the minimum
separation requirements from health care facilities cannot be met on the
subject property, again, the special use permit cannot be granted unless the
variance is granted. And as I mentioned
with regard to the setback requirement, the separation requirement is intended
to help mitigate the impact of the use on the neighborhood, and because of the
standard, it appears from health care facilities. The separation standard acts a lot like the set back in that it
prohibits basically this use from occurring on this property, and again the
burden in on the applicant to demonstrate that they’ve met all the tests for a
variance to be granted. The applicant
had included with their materials letters from owners of two of the health care
facilities, however, the packet of letters that Mrs. Corn has show letters from
those same health care facilities that contradict the original letters. And again, I know those letters are all
hearsay, but I wanted to point that out, and I don’t know that just because
health care facilities provided letters saying they don’t mind, is a reason on
which to grant¼.
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Karen Smith: ¼.be prohibited on protected mountain ridges, that
one’s OK. – flat piece of property. M –
The owner or operator shall be required to meet the application requirements of
200-38.3. Generally, they did meet
those requirements. There are a few items that we wanted to address where
we may need some additional information for clarification. The first is just for the record. I wanted to note that on the application for
the Special Use Permit, I think there’s a reference to an older version of our
Zoning Ordinances to the Special Use Permit section and so it really should say
Section 200-24(f)(2) as the authority for granting the requested permit. The site plan – we reviewed the revised site
plan and there were two things on that.
One was that the dimensions for the refueling area needed to be
shown. At the Planning Board meeting
the project engineer confirmed that those dimensions are 50 feet x 50 feet, but
that will just need to be shown on the revised plan. And also, the site plan is suppose to show the stated minimum
buffer and setback, and, of course, since they need variances on those items,
they were not able to show the required minimum on those items. The applicant, as part of the application
materials, is also suppose to certify compliance basically with the separation
requirement, and that is an open item, of course, until the variance is
granted. Some of these items are going
to be a little bit duplicative with things I’ve mentioned before, but application
materials are suppose to include a schedule of proposed hours of operation, and
you have my comments on that already, that we need some clarification. Noise mitigation plan – again we just need
some clarification as to what the plan is.
Fencing – again clarification.
Written narrative – the applicant provided responses to the required
items, but we feel like some additional information is needed. One, being a description of the operations
associated with the proposed use. I
think we are getting a general idea from the materials as to what is actually
going to occur on the property but there seems to be a little bit of difference
in how many special events in a year, and on weekends, how many practices in a
week, and that sort of thing would occur.
The maximum patron capacity for which the application is being made –
under the application requirements, whatever is stated is what will become the
maximum capacity, and the applicant has stated it as a maximum occupancy of 300
total persons and riders, and we just want to clarify that everybody
understands that that would mean the maximum patron capacity would also be 300,
unless they propose something else. The
types of materials and equipment to be used on site – just, again,
clarification. The application
materials said motorcycles, but from what I understand, ATV’s will also be able
to use the tracks, and so, if there’s a question about that as far as writing
an order on the special use permit, we probably need to specify that, if that’s
the case, or if there will be any other equipment brought on to the subject
property that could be used during practices and events. And then if there is any other information
that the Board of Commissioners feels like it needs to makes it decision, the
applicant will need to bring that forward.
Those are all the site specific standards that apply to minor motor
sports facilities in an I-2 district.
The next set of standards are what we call the
“general site” standards, and these apply to all special use permits in
general. All special uses have to meet
seven general site standards, and I sort of went over how those standards apply
to special use permits back on April 1st, but in looking at the
general site standards and whether they have been met, the Board can consider
the type and size of the principle use, the size of the property, other
relevant factors. In this case, the
applicant does not bear the burden of proving that all the standards have been
met. The applicant will be required to
produce evidence to rebut any evidence that shows that the standards have not
been met. Section 200-56(d)(2),
provides that the Board of Commissioners, if it finds that a proposed use is
contrary to a general standard, it can impose a condition on the special use
permit to avoid the violation of the general site standard. That same section also states that the
condition imposed could be an increase in any minimum specific site standard,
and again, the imposition of condition would only be based on evidence showing
that the general site standards have not been met. The application materials addressed the general site standards. The applicant also provided some additional
information to the Planning Board back on February 3rd, and again,
I’ll refer you to the Minutes in Attachment 6, but staff wanted to go over some
of the items on these general sites that may need some clarification. The first one has to do with health and
safety and the impact of the use. It
says establishments requiring special use permits shall not be located or
developed in such a manner as to adversely affect the health or safety of the
persons residing or working in the neighborhood of the proposed use and will
not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to property or public
improvements in the neighborhood. We
defined in the memo earlier neighborhood as any area impacted by principle use,
and, of course, defining the neighborhood in this case is not simple. As stated in the applicant’s response to the
first general site standard, the use is located in an I-2 general industrial
zoning and there are industrial uses as well as some floodplain in the vicinity. The specific site standards for minor motor
sports require the two-mile separation from health care and a 100-foot buffer
and the 500-foot setback, and these specific site standards seem to indicate
that the impact of a motor sports facility may extend beyond the proposed uses
of any neighbors, and since the applicant is requesting variances from two of
those standards, it appears that this general site standard cannot be met
unless the variances are granted.
The second general site standard has to do with
minimizing the effects of noise, glare, dust, solar access and odor on people
residing or working in the neighborhood of the proposed use and the property
and public improvements in the neighborhood, and as far as this one is
concerned, the main issue has to do with the noise mitigation and again,
whether the plan that they have submitted is sufficient for the Board to
approve. And so, I just restate my
comments from before regarding the noise mitigation plan.
Standard number three has to do with establishments
shall not be located or developed in a manner that would seriously worsen the
traffic congestion so as to endanger the public safety. My response to this one is sort of
multi-faceted. Just so you know, North
Edgerton Road is a state road, and DOT did provide comments on the
application. Basically, that stated the
applicant needed to apply for and obtain a driveway access permit prior to
connecting any roads or drives to this state maintained road and prior to the
issuance of any building permits. So
one condition, if the permit is granted, that I would suggest is that that
driveway permit be obtained prior to operation of the facility. Next, the applicant has indicated that the
use would not adversely effect or worsen normal traffic in the area. Public safety would not be compromised, and
the application materials go on to say that 98% of all track activity would
take place on weekends. All businesses
in the industrial park would be closed.
No adjacent businesses operate more than one shift. Track attendance on any given weekend is no
more 25 vehicles. The application
materials, as I have said, allow for 300 maximum patrons and riders and 100
parking spaces, which leads one to believe that the site’s designed to handle
more than 25 vehicles, and I think the Board actually had questions about that
at the April 1st meeting.
Based on my own observations of use of the property prior to the
applicant filing for the special use permit, I would expect that if there are
special events on weekends, it would attract more than 25 vehicles. There’s a letter in the packet of
correspondence that Mrs. Corn has from Clement Pappas, which basically pointed
out that they are looking to move some operations to a warehouse that is
located at 199 North Edgerton Road, and that’s actually, if you go past the
entrance to the motor sports facility, this facility would be on the left. It’s where the old Smurfit Stone operation is
located. And that letter indicated that
there will be an increase in tractor-trailer traffic on Edgerton Road in the
vicinity of the proposed project, and that traffic can be expected to occur
from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. weekdays, in between 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. on
Saturdays. And I did make a call to
their Human Resources Department, and Clement Pappas does operate three shifts
during the week, and at least one and up to three on Saturdays and occasionally
on Sundays. In order to better address
this general site standard, I felt like the applicant should provide some
additional information. Going back to
something I said earlier about the types and frequency of weekend events; how
many riders and patrons to expect; how patrons and riders will access the
property from U.S. 25 North, because there are actually a couple of ways over
from 25 to North Edgerton Road; how frequently the site will be used for
practices; how many riders and vehicles associated with such riders will be
expected for practices, is also some additional information that could be
specified. And the Planning Board
received some of this information verbally, but I think it needs to be in the
record for the Board of Commissioners.
For example, the applicant told the Planning Board that there would be
no more than eight small events per year.
If that’s what they’re applying for, I think we need to state that for
the record. Also, on this same general
site standard, Item 9 of the letter the applicant turned in to me on February
2, 2004, and that’s Attachment 4-A, it says that Mr. Bennett retains the right
under the Ordinance to request up to two temporary use permits to host events,
which may exceed permitted operations.
The Zoning Ordinance actually allows the Board of Adjustment to issue
temporary use permits for uses not ordinarily allowed in the district, provided
the temporary use permit has a fixed expiration date and the applicant
satisfies any conditions imposed by the Board of Adjustment. But we also have
in the same section that deals with temporary use permits, a specific temporary
use permit for isolated racing events not otherwise allowed under a valid
zoning permit. So that might be for
something that might exceed what the Board might grant a special use permit
for, for example. However, one of the
standards would be that temporary use permits for racing events shall not be
issued for locations that would violate the separation requirements for motor
sports facilities contained within the applicable zoning district. So you’re coming back to the same thing where
we’ve got a two-mile separation for a standard special use permit and a
two-mile separation for temporary use permits.
So the Board of Commissioners may want to have the applicant address
what types of events would require a temporary use permit. If you decide to grant the special use
permit, you may want to consider whether to add any conditions concerning
applications for temporary use permits, whether the variances on the separation
standards – if you grant the variances – would apply. That sort of thing.
The fourth general site standard has to do with
special use permit applications or uses complying with all applicable Federal,
State and Local laws, rules and regulations, and I have outlined in here a
couple of places where the applicant may need to provide some evidence before
beginning operation of some permits. One
has to do with their erosion control approval, which from the materials, they
already have. They would just need to
provide a copy of such approval prior to beginning operation. That would be a suggested condition. From what I understand, they may need
building permits for some of the structures that have already been put up out
there, particularly the registration pavilion.
Permits from environmental health might be needed if, for example, they
decide to do certain things out of the concession stand. So there may be some local permits that they
would need. They also need zoning
permits, again for the structures that are already constructed out there. Another Federal permit that might be
required may be a core of engineer’s permit for any earth movement and that
sort of thing. They are going to be
doing some changes to the track that’s out there now in order to meet their
buffer requirement and such. So if the
special use permit is granted, staff would suggest that the Commissioners
include a condition that the applicant provide evidence of approval of all
applicable local, state and federal permits related to construction and
operation of the motor sports facility to the Planning Department before
construction or operation.
The fifth general site standard has to do with
consistency with the goals and objectives of the Henderson County land use
plan. And on this item, it looks like
it was OK with regard to the stated goals and objectives. The use, itself, does not conform to the
future land use map that was included in the Land Use Plan, but actually
designates the property for agriculture, and that is probably due to the amount
of floodplain on the property. However,
the area was zoned I-2 before we ever had the comprehensive plan, and so those
two things don’t exactly match up in that case, and so, other than that, it
appears to comply with the land use plan.
And I did want to make the Board aware that this property does fall
within the study area for the U.S. 25 North project, in case anyone was
wondering.
The next general site standard has to do with
conformance with any approved official thoroughfare plans of Henderson County
or municipality therein, and this one is satisfied. We don’t, in the county, have an adopted thoroughfare plan,
although NCDOT is working on a transportation plan for the County.
Number seven has to do with minimizing the
environmental impacts on the neighborhood, including the following: ground water, surface water, wetlands, endangered
and threatened species, archeological sites, historical preservation sites and
any natural areas. The applicant’s
response on this one had to do with the fact that it’s often flooded, converted
from dry land to wetland or lake front, is how they put it. There will be times when there can be no use
of the land due to flooding, and other times, where it will have limited use so
that the period of time with which it can be used is less than on other
properties. I just point out again, I
know the Board is aware of this, of course, Henderson County doesn’t
participate in the national flood insurance program, so we don’t have any
regulations pertaining to filling or development that would occur on this
property at this time. But as I said,
erosion control applies and Corp. of Engineers permits may apply. You have in the packet comments from Bob
Carter, who is the District Conservationist for the Soil and Water Conservation
Service, and his comments express the need for buffering along Mud Creek as well
as along the northwest side of the property due to the amount of non-vegetative
soil on site and the potential for
flooding. You also have comments from
Diane Silver, who is the Mud Creek Water Shed Coordinator and Natural Resources
Extension Agent, with the Cooperative Extension Service. And she also expressed concerns about the
amount of bare, loose soil associated with the motor cross facility and the
impact that sediment from flood waters could have on Mud Creek, and she
suggested the need for vegetative buffering along Mud Creek, and actually
offered the assistance of the Cooperative Extension Service to the applicant
about designing an adequate buffer. At
the Planning Board Meeting on February 3rd, the applicant indicated
that they could meet with the North Carolina Department of Environment Health
and Natural Resources about requirements for buffering to minimize damage to
Mud Creek if it floods. So I would
suggest that the applicant address what vegetative buffering will be provided
or maintained along Mud Creek and if such buffering is required by the State as
part of the erosion control permit. And if the Board of Commissioners decides
to grant the special use permit, I proposed a condition that, or suggest that
the Board encourage the applicant to work with the Cooperative Extension Service
or the State on the buffering issue.
Those are the seven general site standards. The other comments that I had, had to just
do with some other considerations for special use permits. When the Board of Commissioners looks at
applications for special use permits, it’s supposed to find that satisfactory
provision and arrangement has been made concerning things, including ingress
and egress, off-street parking and loading, utilities, buffering, play grounds,
open spaces, pedestrian ways and buildings and structures. And a lot of these
topics have been covered already by my comments. There were just a few other things that I wanted to point out
based on those items. A, B and E in
your packet – ingress and egress, off-street parking and loading and the play
grounds, open spaces, access ways, pedestrian ways – I feel like the applicant
should talk a little bit more about how those items will be managed on the
site. For one thing, the beginner track
entrance and exit appears on the revised site plan to be accessed through the
parking lot, and so the applicant should address how potential conflicts
between vehicles and riders will be avoided.
Item D has to do with existing vegetation. What existing vegetation will remain on site and if additional
buffering material will be provided.
Mr. Bennett indicated at the April 1st portion of the hearing that he would plant
trees and he referenced in particular the areas adjoining I believe it was Mr. Owens’ property. And I
think some additional specifics would be helpful if the Board decides to grant
the special use permit and wants to make that a condition. And then on Item F in regard to some
buildings and structures, that sort of thing.
I wanted to see if the applicant would indicate when they propose to
remove or move some items that are already located on the site. These include accessory buildings, a
dumpster, some junked vehicles and other items that are right now located
within the 100-foot buffer and they’re going to have to move those out of the
100-foot buffer if the permit is granted.
So if the Board of Commissioners decides to grant this special use
permit, it may want to determine if any additional conditions are necessary
related to those items that I just reviewed.
Also, the applicant has indicated that any signage for the facility,
whether it’s on site or off site, will comply with the Henderson County Sign
Ordinance, and I would suggest that if the permit is granted, that the Board
consider a condition that would require such signage also comply with the
Henderson County Zoning Ordinance.
That is basically – that covers the comments with
regard to compliance, but I also wanted to provide the Board with the
recommendation of the Planning Board. The Planning Board, at a special called meeting on February 3rd,
reviewed and discussed the special use permit application as amended, and the
variance application as amended. And
after hearing from the applicant, staff and attendees of the meeting, who were
both for and against both applications.
The Planning Board voted on two motions, and those are on Page 13 of the
Minutes, which is in Attachment 6. The
first motion, which was approved
unanimously, 5 to 0, requested that the Board of Commissioners study
motor cross facilities in relation to motor sports facilities as defined in the
Zoning Ordinance and ascertain whether they should have different requirements
placed on them for other types of motor vehicles. Staff informed the Commissioners of this request at its February
18, 2004 meeting when Mr. Edney had approached the Board about scheduling a
hearing on the proposed Amendment to the text of the Zoning Ordinance. The second motion, which was also approved
unanimously , 5 to 0, recommended that the Board of Commissioners deny special
use application SU-O3-01, because of the size and magnitude of the variances
requested. And I did want to add the
Planning Board Members indicated that they made that recommendation with
regrets, and that’s mainly due to what they felt was the need to study motor cross in relation to the definition of
motor sports facilities. Those are my
direct comments, and I have one witness to call, Martha Sachs, who was added at
the last meeting, if the Board wants to hear from her now, unless you have
questions for me.
Chairman: Any
questions for Karen?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: You
want to call your witness now?
Karen Smith: Sure. I’ll call Martha Sachs.
Witness Sachs: At our last meeting here, I was
asked if I was officially representing the County Advisory Committee on nursing
homes and rest homes. At that time, I
did not have that official status. We
had a meeting last week, and they unanimously agreed that I am to represent the
entire committee, and I am also speaking on behalf of the regional ombudsman,
who has authorized me to do so. My
concern here – the applicant has said that they will not operate after dark,
and in the summer time, the sun doesn’t even set until, in some months, 8
minutes before 9:00 o’clock, and which means it doesn’t get dark till quite a
bit later. And in some of these
facilities, nine of which are within the two mile radius, people go to sleep
quite early, and sometimes they have a lot of trouble sleeping. Any noise at all can be very disturbing, and
I think that this needs to be taken into consideration. Also, the fact that they say they won’t
operate after dark because they do not have any lighting, but if this variance
is granted and the permits are granted, there’s nothing to stop them from
installing lighting and operating at even later hours. The noise is not the only issue. Pollution is also an issue. These little vehicles have an awful lot of
pollution coming out of them, and we have in these facilities people who have
difficulty in breathing, who are on oxygen support right now. Breathing in additional pollutants could
really endanger their lives as well as their health. But, there’s something that’s beyond – I don’t want this to be an
issue between the young and the old. I’m
a grandmother. I’ve got a teenage
grandson. I am very understanding of
these kids who want to have this kind of facility, but this is not the only
place in Henderson County that they could have one. There’s a lot of vacant land that is not near these kinds of
facilities or with homes nearby elsewhere in this county. And I think the issue really is that Mr.
Bennett would buy land that has the specific restrictions about being two miles
from these facilities and with 500-foot setbacks, and then decide to build
something which totally disregards these restrictions, puts up buildings which
he hasn’t got the permits for before he builds them. He’s got to get them now after he builds them. I think this is a question that you
Commissioners to think about the fact that if we have regulations and every
time somebody decides they want to do something that does not observe these
regulations, they can just buy it and have the regulations changed. We’re
talking now about planning for this whole county, and I think you need to think
seriously about this. This is something
where a regulation exists. If we permit
somebody to come in and totally violate this and then say, well sure that’s a
good idea go ahead, we’ll give you a variance, you’re violating the trust of
the people of the county who count on regulations to know where they’re living
and what’s going to happen around them. And please give that some really
serious thought, because this is a bigger issue than the question of ‘do we do
it for the young’ or ‘do we do it for the old’. Thank you.
Chairman: Mrs.
Corn, would you call the parties’ evidence of the first party.
Mrs. Corn: Gerald
Nash.
Chairman: Mr.
Nash, do you wish to testify and present evidence at this time?
Atty Beeker: He
gave you an affidavit?
Mrs. Corn: Mr.
Nash gave me an affidavit, because he was afraid he wouldn’t be here to present
his evidence. There was a school board
meeting or something this evening.
Chairman: Should
we enter that into evidence or have it read?
Atty Beeker: I
would ask if there’s any objection to it.
Technically, it is under oath, but would technically be considered
hearsay. There’s been a lot of other
hearsay heard, so, I leave that to the Board at this time.
Chairman: Mr.
Edney, what’s your preference on…?
M. Edney: We
would object to it, if Mr. Nash is not here to be questioned in anyway, shape
or form, so, obviously, Mr. Moyer made the point during some of my evidence
that it’s pure hearsay and should not be heard.
Chairman: Is
it the Board’s pleasure to hear any evidence from…? Do you have any advice for the Board from a legal…?
Atty Beeker: I
would just give you the same advice I gave you last time. In that there is a
difference in admitting it and relying upon it. Clearly, any material findings of fact that you make must be
based on both sworn testimony and credible evidence, and general hearsay is not
considered to be credible evidence. If
you hear some hearsay information that you would like hard evidence on, then
the Board always has the prerogative to continue the hearing and call that
person in to be able to testify directly.
So those are the only comments I would offer to the Board.
Chairman: What’s
the Board’s pleasure?
S. Baldwin: Well,
it seems like the precedent we’ve been following is that we’ve been allowing
folks to present hearsay, but then we note that it is hearsay. So if we’re going to do that for one side, I
think we should do it for the other.
Chairman: Any
objections to that from the Board?
B. Moyer: Well,
we’re pretty far down the road as Shannon mentioned and we’ve got a lot of
hearsay in this record.
Chairman: Well
and I think we decided the point is how the Board uses the hearsay and if we
wanted additional information ¼ CAN’T UNDERSTAND – TOO FAR FROM THE MIC. We could go ahead and request that at a later point if it became
very important so we’ll go ahead and admit that then at this point in time ¼
Atty Beeker:
I would just admit it and if
any of the Board members wish to read it, they would be free to do so. If any of the parties want to see it, you’re
free to do so. Mrs. Corn has it.
M. Edney: And
if the record could note our objections.
Chairman: We
have a second party, Mrs. Corn?
Mrs. Corn: Kenneth
Cobb with Park Ridge Hospital.
Chairman: Mr.
Cobb, do you wish to testify and present evidence at this time?
Witness Cobb: Yes.
Chairman: Please
come forward, please.
Witness Cobb: As
has been stated earlier this evening, Mr. Bennett did obtain from Mr. Mike
Schultz, the President of Park Ridge Hospital, a statement that is included in
the application packet that states that at that time, Park Ridge Hospital had
no objection. After receiving the copy of the application and reading it, we
have since changed our opinion and do object to this variance request. In looking at the application, Section 14,
there are very few, if any, limits as to what could actually occur at this
motor cross event, and so in reality, what has happened in the past is not really
an accurate predictor of what could happen in the future. There could be AMA sanctioned events with a
full class load of high performance motorcycles performing at it, and things
like that, so anything that has occurred in the past is really not an accurate
predictor of what could occur in the future, and based on that, that is our
objection to that. Also, I have a
question – the site plan that I have in here does state 300 as a maximum number
of people, but also, on the operation section, it does talk about 250 in the
actual written application, and I’m not sure which it is.
Chairman: We’ll
cover that in cross-examination.
Witness Cobb: O.K.,
O.K. the other thing in this continuance of hearsay. I was a member of the original Henderson County Noise Task Force
back in 1999, and at that point, that was somewhat started as a result of a
motor sport track that was being considered.
I personally retained Dr. Noel Stewart, a Ph.D. graduate of North
Carolina State University at Raleigh, and his statements at that time do
corroborate the evidence here that atmospheric conditions do have tremendous
impact on what happens to noise. So, we
on our site agree with that, and so a single test would not be indicative of
certainly what could occur at any other point in time regarding a race track. It
so happened yesterday afternoon I was out at the site of the new county EMS
station on Commercial Blvd. at Upward Road, and heard this quite loud roar of a
noise, and asked the construction worker what that was, and they said, well
that’s Andy Petree racing, which is across the interstate and up by the school,
and so being a racing fan, I went up there, and believe it or not, I drove
around the building with the window down in the pick-up truck and you could
very faintly hear the noise right on the site, but driving back out back down
by the Texaco Station, again the noise became quite prominent. So, what occurs at one location can be
different at another location, and so just because somebody doesn’t hear it at
one location on a day doesn’t mean that they won’t hear it at that same
location on another day. That’s all I
have. Thank you.
Chairman: Any
questions for Mr. Cobb?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Thank
you sir. Mrs. Corn, would you call the
next party.
Mrs. Corn: Dorothy
Freeman.
Chairman: Mrs.
Freeman, do you wish to testify and present evidence at this time?
Witness Freeman: Yes.
Chairman: Come
on down.
Witness Freeman: I
didn’t think I’d be up here among ya’ll.
I do have a paper from a lady that I didn’t get last week added in, but
she couldn’t be present last week and is not present this week, and I don’t
know whether or not you just want to read it or it would conflict with anything
but it…
Chairman: And
who is the paper from, who is…?
Witness Freeman: It’s
the lady that lives across from Heritage Hills. Her name is Francis Carver.
Chairman: I
guess we are in the same position as with the other letter. I am sure Mr. Edney would object.
Witness Freeman: That’s
all right. You’ll be able to read it at
another time.
Chairman: You
want to just give that to Mrs. Corn.
Witness Freeman: One
of my witnesses did leave, but he should be back. Can you add one person, although I had one extra person to my –
to speak tonight – Jack Reed?
Chairman: You’re
not able to add anyone at this point, we’ve already closed that out.
Witness Freeman: Oh.
Atty Beeker: She
wants to call a witness that wasn’t on her witness list, that’s a little bit
different.
Chairman: Oh,
O.K. I thought you meant…
Witness Freeman: O.K. There’s just one that wasn’t on there, and I
would like to call him, after I get done speaking I assume. Am I first with 25 minutes? So we can get out of here at 12:00.?
Chairman: Go
right ahead.
Witness Freeman: You’re
a brave person. Well, my name is
Dorothy Freeman. I have stood before
part of this group before. I have lived
in Henderson County since 1946, leaving for about three years, but I’ve lived
on this piece of property for 52 years.
I have developed land that I owned 40 years, and right now, the first
piece, I’ve, there’s 12 houses on
there. That’s how slow I have been developing land. I am now known as a major subdivision, although we usually take
one a year, but age is catching up with me, and I have to try to sell two a
year, but Uncle Sam takes care of that too.
So I don’t know what I’m going to do in the next few years. I just hope
I survive, and that’s the main thing. One of the subjects talked about tonight
was artifacts. I want you to know this
piece here was found on the bottom land that I owned for 35 years (Mrs. Freeman
held up the necklace she was wearing), and it’s original, authentic, so there
are artifacts right around our area.
When I was driving down last night to the test site. That’s the first time I’ve ever seen motor
cross. I’ve seen it on T.V., not
watched it too long… any channel changing.
The noise that we hear in that situation where I live, it funnels in
from the interstate, and nobody believes it.
That bottom land carries that sound all night long, if you’re listening
to a certain amount. You’ll say well
you hear the interstate. Yes, I
do. And the one thing about that motor
cross track, when you drive first in, once you look over towards the interstate
is the weigh station. And it’s the
trucks stopping to be weighed. So it’s
a double whammy for us that live out here, that they might put something with
noise in that vicinity. Do I hear the
airplanes? Yeah, I hear the
airplanes. We’re at least two or three
miles from the airport, when they’re landing and taking off, depending on the revving
up the engine. At the site, when I was
in there, I noticed a lot of red clay buffers that were being dug up. That means erosion for Mud Creek. That means water stoppage for Henderson
County. I’ve owned enough bottom land
there, I know that it had been 35 acres and 40 acres that I owned. The water backs on us, and it does not flow
out usually, because we don’t get enough… but it can’t take it down the French
Broad, it begins to back into Henderson County, and you know that on South
Main, you have a problem with water.
And it has been over 8 foot high on our road going into my house, and
for years we had to walk in. Now we
have a little better trail to get into where I backed in and developed land, if
we have high water. I have yet to see,
after the 52 years, the 100 year flood plain, and I hope I don’t see it in my
life time. At 76 though I’ve got still
hope that it might still come, so I’m not sure how much water you’ll have on
Mr. Bennett’s land. So driving down to
the motor cross, all I had to do was roll the window down. I drive a diesel truck. If you can hear the sound that they were
making, the few that were there. You
only had 20 participants there. So
there were some little RV’s. I don’t
know how many, but that was what was stated to my knowledge. If I’m wrong just get up and say so and I’ll
let you know what I think, what I thought that was the number given. If you are
just running people one at a time following each other, what scares me worse is
those young children going over a hill. What happens with the law of gravity
when that engine stops? Somebody’s
going down and somebody’s going to get hurt.
But this is just my opinion of what I feel as a mother, grandmother and
a great-grandmother so that is the responsibility of the person that puts an
operation to that field in for their children and I have no jurisdiction over
that and it’s just the way life is.
It’s a whole new scheme, and I’m of the old school instead of the new
school, and I admit that I’m old and I can’t help that. I wish I was 20 years younger and knew what
I know now, but I don’t guess it would be motor cross. It would still be cows and development. But listening to the sound of that and
listening to the combination and the neighbors all were out listening. You all hear that few of motorcycles
running. So, other than that, I’m not,
I’m definitely thinking no variances should be added. We worked for two years when the race track of 5,000 people were
gonna be right across from my farm, less than 100 feet from me, driving a
two-lane road to get into that facility. I just don’t think that this is a
suitable thing. I feel that the letter
that I, shouldn’t, I don’t know if I
can comment about it, but the lady has there written, but I will put my own
comments in it. I do not think Highway
25 will handle the traffic. When you go to Mountain Home, you have one thing in
common. It used to be the Prison Camp Road, that’s the only signal and it goes
left if you’re coming from Hendersonville, and there is no right. So when you pull over there, there’s people
that are going to be turning left to Mountain Home. You have about four exits or driveways in, that’s a possibility
to where the motor cross is in I’d say what – that should be out here 2000
feet, 3000 feet, to where the industrial entrance would be to there where you
go in – unless you go Cloverdale. If
you go to Cloverdale, that is the closest entrance to Edgerton Road to get down
to the motor cross site. When you do
that, it such short - it’s say 50 feet
from the signal to that turn off. I may
be exaggerating and I’m not sure if you’re measuring out, that’s the first left
hand turn off of the Prison Camp Road sign or Mountain Road, whatever they call
it, and you’ll be turning left. But on
the opposite side where Heritage Hills are, there are seven driveways. They go into businesses. They go into Heritage Hills. They go into private residences. When they do, they are going, depending on
which direction you are coming from, they have no problem, because we are gonna
have a five lane highway turning right, but turning to the left or, depending on
which direction you are coming from – if you are crossing over and going left,
you are gonna cut the center lane off, and you’re gonna have to have time in there to do that thing,
and I believe your whole center lane is going to be backed up. Right now we’re backed up quite a bit from
people switching around sign boards, slow, stop or whichever way it goes. But I
think if they put another signal at in the Industrial Park, which I think would
be the only road in other than Cloverdale, because the Lee Smith Road is, doesn’t
look functional at this time for it, that it would handle that kind of traffic
in, especially on a race day. So if
you’re putting 200 or 300, what are you having – I’d say you’d have 100 cars,
but evidently not. Everybody carries
piggy-back or put a trailer to carry what you’re functioning into. So I really think we will have a problem
with our new road going into Hendersonville, and I really think that needs to
be looked into. I am opposed to the
variances of any kind. I created my own neighborhood. I say fortunately, it has
been very good for me. I have good
people, and they’ve stood behind me, and they’ve purchased land and they’ve purchased
houses, and I feel I am responsible to a sense that if somebody interferes with
what you have there, of a quiet place, other than the interstate and the other
noises we adapt to. I don’t feel we
need to adapt to another noise, and it’s also going to interfere with my income
because the Planning Department wants to know which direction I’m going into
next. We’ll I’m going towards what
brings me the most money. What brings
me the most money is high hills and the view of the Pisgah and not with the interstate,
can’t see if from that section. We’ll
see toward Stoney Mountain and that view there and over there to where the
houses are in the other facility going towards Asheville, Rugby Drive. So that’s my opinion of what I think and the
interference of what might be possible in my lifestyle for the next years or
so, and I’d like to call my first witness, unless there’s some questions.
Chairman: Mrs.
Freeman, before you call your first witness, can I ask you, do you still farm
the land in your area there?
Witness Freeman: I
farm the 35 acres that I have in my back yard.
When the fellow that was in the trash business that I never complained
about, I have complained about the motor cross. Somehow it didn’t get back to Mr. Bennett. It was Mr. Hyder that bought that land. I thought, well I better sell my bottom and
buy the land where he’s running the trash trucks, so I bought 12 ½ acres up
there so I didn’t have to look at trash trucks and then he decides…
Chairman: …adjoins
your farm?
Witness Freeman: Adjoins
my road, driveway. So in other words,
now I, well in ‘98, when they decided to put this race track in, that would
adjoin my driveway.
S. Baldwin: I’ve
got a question. Where is your property
in proximity to this site?
Witness Freeman: It’s
off the old Asheville Road, it’s, you’ll see¼.. TAPE ENDS
S. Baldwin: What
name or title is the property in?
Witness Freeman: Well
it’s now 232 High Hills Road, but it’s listed under the Old Asheville Road.
S. Baldwin: So
you are or you are not a contiguous property owner to this property?
Witness Freeman: I’m
not what?
S. Baldwin: You
are or not a contiguous property owner?
Witness Freeman: Continuous
you mean?
S. Baldwin: Next
to.
Witness Freeman: Next
to. No I’m not. I’m about a mile distance.
S. Baldwin: You’re
a mile away from the property?
Witness Freeman: Yes
sir.
S. Baldwin: O.K.
Chairman: Any
other questions for Mrs. Freeman?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Go ahead and call your witness if
you would.
Witness Freeman: O.K. Is Harold McKinney in? Uh oh, Harold’s missing. Let’s do Susan Lane. Do I
stand or sit?
Chairman: You
can be seated.
Witness Freeman: OK,
I will.
Witness Lane: Hello.
Chairman: What
is your name please?
Witness Lane: My
name is Susan Lane, and I live on the property adjacent to Dorothy Freeman,
which is within probably about…
Chairman: Have
you signed your affirmation, before we take your witness testimony, for Mrs.
Corn?
Witness Lane: Affirmation
meaning an oath you mean? I thought I
did.
Chairman: Let
me just have a second.
Witness Lane: I’ll
just sign it.
SEVERAL PEOPLE TALKING – CAN’T MAKE OUT WHAT.
Atty Beeker: You
might want to remind Mrs. Freeman that she is limited to five major witnesses
and anybody else would have to be a minor witness and limited to three minutes.
Witness Lane: Do
I speak now?
Chairman: Go
ahead Susan, if you’ve signed your affirmation.
Witness Lane: I
did. I live in the Naples area,
approximately one mile from the proposed site of the motor cross track. I would first like to say that I agree
completely that the kids of this area need a place to enjoy motor cross. I was very impressed when we were here the
last time, that that is a need, and I especially appreciated Mr. Bennett’s care
in insisting on parental supervision. I
thought that was very responsible.
However, I still feel that the main question to consider here is – I don’t
want to sound like a smartaleck, but what part of no doesn’t really mean
no? The citizens of this county have
already fought this issue in 1998, when the race track was debated, and they
made their will very clearly known at that time, especially in regard to the
siting of this kind of a facility with regard to health care facilities – that
it should not be within two miles.
There are nine health care facilities, including the hospital, which is
within one mile of the proposed site.
My big concern is, that will this variance, will one variance lead to
another and another and another? And if
so, then the citizens who fought this battle once in 1998 would have to keep
coming back as we have done here and fighting this over and over again, when they’ve
already made their will known, and they had good reasons for that. And they’ve already asked for one variance –
there’s the variance to have this facility and now another variance to have the
setback significantly, 4/5ths reduced, which is, and to issue temporary use permits which would have larger and
larger crowds when those temporary use permits are in effect. It just seems like it’s already being set up
to ask for more exceptions to the rule, and I feel that if the citizens of the
community design an ordinance and they fight that battle and it was for a good
reason, that there’s a health care facility there even though maybe they can
prove that there is a little bit less noise for this one. This sets the precedent that anybody that
wants to come along, can come along and say well we want a variance too, and so
do we, and so do we. And as the first
lady who got up here in the blue outfit said, these things were put in place
for a good reason. I also want to say
that I realize Mr. Bennett will have a difficult time in using his property in
another way, but when he purchased it, it was a 100-year flood plain. As a matter of fact, it’s within an area of
a 500-year flood plain. This is well
established. I don’t understand why his
surveyor didn’t make him aware of that, and I feel that it is unfair to plead
hardship for him with the use of his property that he won’t be able to do
anything else, when he did have the chance before the bought it, it was really
clear, first of all, that it was a flood plain. Second of all, that the ordinances against putting a motor cross
track in that area were well in place.
This was all very clear. On the
other hand, the people I feel it would really be unfair to are those people who
have property, had it long before that, had it actually, in fact, before the
ordinance went into effect and put these ordinances in place so that they could
protect their property. That hospital
has been there for years. In other
words, all these people who have significantly more invested than Mr. Bennett’s
investment. If you take a group of
people, their interest should be more or less not considered as valid as Mr.
Bennett’s who has a hardship now because he has land that’s in an area that
can’t be developed in any other way.
Well he had the chance to say, O.K. I don’t want it if I can’t develop
it. Those other people were banking on
you upholding the laws that they’ve enacted, and asked you to enact and then if
you go ahead and grant variances, it’s putting his interest above other people
who trust you to uphold their interest, which I feel is extremely unfair. I guess basically what I hear being asked
for is a set of variances that would invalidate the protections that have
already been set in place by other people.
And the last thing I want to say is I really feel that the behavior of
Mr. Edney has been very poor in having a gentleman come up here and give a
rather lengthy explanation of his expertise, a person from California, and have
all that evidence placed before you tonight.
The man was able to say it. It’s
like the old Perry Mason show – well I object.
Well, who cares if you object.
It’s all been said. You’ve heard
it. You’ve got all the information. But
then when Mr. Nash’s paper was put up to be read, well suddenly that’s
hearsay. Well it was acknowledged after
this man spoke, that his was hearsay too, but everybody got to hear it. I really think that that’s kind of dirty
pool, and I would just like to say that I feel that the citizens of this
community deserve more than that. Thank
you.
AUDIENCE CLAPS.
Chairman: Are
there any other witnesses Mrs. Freeman?
Witness Freeman: The
next one will be Judy Possinger.
Witness Possinger: My
name is Judy Possinger. I live at 328
Canterbury Way, which is approximately a mile as the crow flies from the
proposed motor cross facility. I, too,
am not opposed to kids. We have three
kids. We have grandkids. I love kids. I think they need to be kept busy, and I think the attitude of
drug and alcohol freedom and family time is commendable. However, I think our kids need to be
involved in a sport that does not unfavorably affect other people, and probably
my own opinion is that they could find a much safer way of doing it. I have two acquaintances. One is a 30 year old gentleman, who actually
raced motor cross but stopped because of the safety issues, and his comment was
‘they are very loud’. I also have a
friend who does sheriff patrol near a motor cross in Virginia, and her comment
was ‘that there was a lot of noise which rises above the barriers’. I think decibels can be measured, but that
may not be actually what our ears hear.
We have lived in our home for 30 years.
My husband is a physician at Park Ridge Hospital. We chose this location because it is close
to the hospital, and is a peaceful location.
We live on top of a hill, and we hear things that other people do not
hear. We have a horse farm. We board horses. We volunteer with the Henderson County Sheriff’s Mounted Patrol
and we spend much time out of doors working and training our horses and we
would like to enjoy our peace and quiet.
We do hear the interstate and that’s enough noise for us. And we feel
that our property would be devaluated by a motor cross facility. My second and last concern is that if this
variance is granted we are concerned that the door will be opened for larger
major motor cross and possibly auto racing in the neighborhood neighboring low
lands which our community worked so hard to prevent. I would hope that our Commissioners would consider these
concerns. Thank you very much.
Chairman: You
have another witness Mrs. Freeman?
Witness Freeman: Yes,
Mike Morris.
Witness Morris: I am a resident of Naples. I live by Mrs. Freeman and right below Mrs.
Possinger so I’m about a mile away also and I’ve heard comments made – I’ve got
mixed feelings on this. I’ve been an
athlete all my life. I student taught
out here. Motor cross dangerous as it
may be, but my body is a testimony to athletes and what can happen to their
body playing college basketball. So
danger, that’s not a concern of mine.
That’s the parent’s choice to me.
But I have a very good friend, Warren Robinson. Many of you may know him.
Someone in audience: Use
your mic please.
Witness Morris: Yes Sir. Warren Robinson is a very good friend of mine. His family is a very good friend of my
family. His daughter and my daughter participate
in church and softball, everything together.
So, I’ve got mixed feelings. I
actually like both. I would love to see
the motor cross track take place. I do
have some objections, however. I heard
comments made here that I can’t believe that you could hear this track. I promise you, I’m a mile a way, come to my
house. I wish you could have come to my
house yesterday. You could hear
it. As God is my witness, you could hear
it. In particular, I’m making that
point to you sir. I thought your
presentation was very good, but don’t try to tell me what I hear, O.K., that’s
all I ask.
Chairman: Mike,
if you would address your comments to the Commissioners up here.
Witness Morris: Yes Sir. I’m a little emotional, sorry. I’m trying to let everybody know
that I’m trying to tell the truth.
That’s the only point I’m here for.
I’ll take a 100 bucks. I’ll
write a check right after this. I
challenge everyone in this audience to take some money and put it together and
let’s find a place for the track, not two miles from the hospital or less than
two miles. I challenge the real estate
people who are against it. I challenge this county to come up with some
money. I’ve coached Rec. Department
basketball. I’ve coached Little League
baseball. I’ve coached girls in
softball. I know the county has money that they use for recreation. I think you heard a presentation by these
people that says this is a good sport.
It’s a family sport, and it deserves a place. Perhaps, not where it’s at.
That’s the only point. O.K there’s some stuff going on about db’s. I think most of what we heard here is
hearsay. I think in the lawyer’s
language. Maybe we need a study by
someone that’s neutral to the whole thing that could come out and tell us what
really is occurring and what we really hear.
There is a difference between the noise that the motorcycles make,
motorbikes make versus what I hear from the interstate and what I hear from
U.S. 25. There’s absolutely no
mistake. It’s an irritating sound. It’s kind of like, and I hate to use this
example because I fuss at my daughter for doing it to me all the time - talking
your fingernails on the blackboard.
That sound irritates. Perhaps
other sounds don’t irritate that are louder, so you’ve got to take that part of
the noise into consideration when you’re thinking of noise. The wind and the weather play a big role as
to whether we hear this noise or not.
If the wind is blowing in our direction, we hear it. If the wind is not blowing in our direction,
there’s probably a good possibility we don’t hear it. And I don’t know how many bikes you had out there yesterday. I don’t really care. I’m just going to tell you what I
heard. When I stepped outside, you can
definitely hear it. It’s an irritating noise.
And I’m a mile away now, as you walk the railroad tracks as I walked
them to see. I go back in my house and I’ve got a 2 x 6 stud wall in my house, good
insulation, closed the door and I
didn’t hear it. If I roll my window, one
window open, I do hear it. So, that’s a
tough call, it’s a tough call. You know
in terms of how it’s going to irritate the hospital, the rest home and
everything else involved. So, I’m a
little disappointed in the engineer study and Mr. Bennett’s proposal. I think
during the racetrack issue there was a lot of talk about – you can purchase
sound barriers to put up around the racetrack.
There’s no comparison between a racetrack and a motor cross track. Now
I’ve been to both and know what… there’s no comparison to me on the noise. But in terms of the sound barriers that go
up, I think there’s a lot of talk in the racetrack – I know I need to be
talking to you. I think that’s probably
what you said, but also I feel like I’m part of the community too. OK, well, OK
you win. Sound barriers – I think
there’s a lot of talk that you can purchase sound barriers that you can put
around a racetrack to dampen the noise.
Perhaps that’s an engineering study that could be taken under by Mr.
Bennett, you wanna use the 100 bucks I’ll give you? Use it to do that. Let’s
prove it. Let’s do it. Let’s do it the way it should be done. Let’s make sure no one’s harmed in the
process. Let’s make sure that my 8-year
old daughter, if she wants to go ride with Warren’s little girl, Lari, as they
were talking about riding. Lari was
gonna teach her how to ride, just give her a shot at it. If it doesn’t harm any of these people
though, because we were here first.
They, in particular, were here first in terms of the health care people,
the homes and that sort of thing. Mr.
Bennett, I don’t have any sympathy for in a way, in a way I do. But in terms of your investment, I don’t
have any sympathy for you. You bought
the property. Hey, this is America. You buy something, you get what you
buy. You’ve got to find out the
evidence first in terms of flood plain and all that. So investment wise, don’t have any sympathy. I do for the kids,
do for the parents, do for the families and that sort of thing. We’ve got a cornfield down below me. I ‘ll never be able to do anything with that
but plant corn in it every year. It’s
part of the flood plain. Knew it when I got the land. If I made a bad investment, that’s my bad investment. I also have an acquaintance who knows Mr.
Bennett very well. I have a little bit
of a trust problem in terms of what this will become.
Chairman: Would
you try and keep your remarks to just the evidence…
Witness Morris: Sure, O.K. There’s been a lot of cease and desist things delivered on the
property. What I don’t understand is
how someone can continue to do something with the county laws that say, no you
can’t do this, but he continues anyway. I think the laws were written ‘as is’. If changes need to be made in order to allow this, those laws
need to be changed first to allow him to do it. I think there’s probably a
reason why the setback distances were made.
If there was a reason then, doesn’t that reason still exist now in terms of the
health care facilities? I guess the
last thing I want to say is let’s try to find a way to build a track
somewhere. I don’t – I’m not smart enough
to be able to figure it out but let’s figure it out somehow, even if it requires
barriers, sound barriers to be put up at the existing property or another piece
of property. I don’t care, but let’s
try to pl… I think both sides can be pleased.
Chairman: Mrs.
Freeman, do you have anyone else.
Witness Freeman: Jack
Reed.
Chairman: Is
this your fourth witness?
Witness Freeman: No,
this is my fifth witness.
Atty Beeker: Including
you or excluding you?
Witness Freeman: Oh,
was I included?
Atty Beeker: Yes,
you’re included.
Witness Freeman: Let’s
see now (1, 2, 3, 4), and this would be five altogether, including me.
Atty Beeker: O.K.
Witness Reed: I
promise to be brief. Good evening.
Members: Good
evening.
Witness Reed: I
was at the track Tuesday night for the sound trials.
Chairman: I
didn’t get your name.
Witness Reed: I
beg your pardon?
Chairman: Name
please.
Witness Reed: I’m
sorry. Jack Reed. I live at 102 Cannon Drive, Cannon Woods,
and I was at the track Tuesday night to observe the noise level trials. Before I left home, and this was after the
motor cross vehicles were running. I
could not hear it. But normally when
they have the cycles running over there I cannot sit on my back porch, either
Saturday or Sunday, when they usually have them, for the noise. I can’t enjoy it. I go in the house, close
the windows and I still hear it. There
was a big difference. I think that was
the bare minimum number of vehicles that were on there. And many of them were the 250 cc’s, so these
weren’t the big ones. They weren’t
making the noise that they usually make.
That was my observation. We were
talking about the spread of noise, and I hate to mention it, but back when we
had the asphalt plant hearings, we had some information from Cal. Tech. about
thermal inversions and what it can do and it can spread both pollutants and
noise for a 10-mile radius. That’s not
mine, that’s from Cal. Tech. Citizen
Hanley Lane’s several articles in the Times-News has covered the noise
objections very well, I think. I have a
personal feeling that we have a moral obligation to the patients and the residents
of the health care facilities. They
cannot move when noise is generated.
Some of them are bedridden. Many
do not have air conditioning and they must have the windows open. Why create ordinances to cover the
protection of the health care facilities and then consider variances which will
negate the original reasons? Martha
Sachs covered the plate of the residents of these health care facilities very
well, so I’ll just touch on one other item of that. I was the chairman of that same committee for four years and I
was in every facility in the county – nursing home and adult care homes. I
still go as a long-term care advocate to all these facilities, to many of the
facilities, not all of them, and I talk
to the residents, not the owners. The
residents are dead against it. They
can’t tolerate this kind of noise. The
sign at the track says ‘a private club’ is posted, not open to the public.
Who’s going to go in to observe proper or improper use if you’re not a
member of the club? That’s brief as I
can make it.
Chairman: Thank
you. Any questions?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Mrs.
Corn, will you call the next party?
Mrs. Corn: Frank
Cox.
Witness Cox: My
name is Frank Cox. I am a moderately
long-term resident of Henderson County. I live in Whispering Hills. My home is just a hair over a quarter of a
mile from where the track is supposed to be, according to the map in the
document packet we received. A few
points I would like to bring out. Some
of them will be redundant with things that have already been said, but I would
also like to add my voice to those.
Some of them will not be redundant. First of all, I’d like to add a
little additional hearsay. I’m not an
expert in sound, but just about 10 minutes on the Internet at various sites
from experts shows that the reason people hear the sound differing from time to
time is the fact that as the wind blows, we hear sound on the day when the
wind’s blowing our direction or not.
Sound is pushed around by air movements. Sound adds. So for
instance, I-26 may be too loud for someone and it may not be too loud for
someone else. The motorcycles alone may not, but if the sound is going the same
way, those sounds are additive. And
this is an interesting thing. When the
gentleman was addressing us the last evening, he said that the difference
between one motorcycle and another was only a few decibels, but at least three
references confirmed that a 10 decibel increase equates into a twice as loud
noise to the human ear. And it’s also
very well known, the decibel meters do not simulate the human ear. So we hear a lot of things that are aggravating
that may be the decibel meter doesn’t show up as being all that
substantial. I would like to commend
Mr. Bennett. I’m so glad I’m not
standing up here the last time we met, because I’d have really feel like a jerk after all those kids were up
here. I think they do need that. The gentleman that was just up here, I’d like
to commend his statements that I think
this is a great sport and we have the privilege to participate in dangerous
sports. This is America. And I think we do need something like that. I’m just glad I didn’t stand up after all
those kids were up here. I would have really felt like a turkey all the way
around. But yet, I would like to say
that I used to ride a motorcycle year round, 13 months straight. No other
transportation. I even rode mine in snow. I don’t know about the rest of you. On the roads. That’s all I had, and I got back and forth,
and I’m still alive and that was over 35 years ago. I’m not against this at all.
I just think sometimes there are really good places for tracks and
sometimes there are places that are not really good. I’m curious, as some people have already said, that a variance
allowed would set sort of a precedence, maybe not a legal precedence, but it
would set a precedence in the mind of the Board and perhaps other groups of
people as far as the use of the land like this. I would like to ask - I don’t know if I’m allowed to, but does a
variance set a legal precedence for future use of surrounding properties? Am I allowed to ask the attorney that?
Chairman: You’re
allowed to ask. I don’t have an answer
for you. I guess my first reaction
would be that it does not. You have to look at each case on it’s own merit.
Witness Cox: O.K. Another issue all together. The gentleman last time said to consider how
close Route 64 was to Pardee Hospital, and then why would that be so close with
the noisy thoroughfare that it is, and yet this be a problem for the local
residents. I would like to submit that
Pardee and 64 are as close as they are because of the evolution of the county
and not because of the planning of the county.
It just happened that way. I’m
wondering if the plan for the use of the property would not include sanctioned
races, would that guarantee that sanctioned races would never occur on that property? Would that be a guarantee that they
wouldn’t? I’m also curious if the property
were subsequently sold would the future owner be able to maintain whatever
privileges he gained through the variance, but yet make different uses –
expanded uses? So that’s a question
that comes to my mind and I’m sure you all have some of those same
questions. The last thing that I would
like to say is I’m amazed that at the age of 25, the noises that didn’t bother
me at all, that today irritate me at the age of 50, but I have grandkids and
kids, and I do think this track is needed somewhere. I really do, but I don’t think this is a good place. Thank you.
Chairman: Any
questions for Mr. Cox from the Board?
S. Baldwin: Where
is your property located Mr. Cox?
Witness Cox: Whispering
Hills.
S. Baldwin: Whispering
Hills?
Witness Cox: And
it’s just - according to the map it’s a hair over a quarter of a mile from
where the track is proposed.
S. Baldwin: Thank
you.
Chairman: Any
other questions? Mrs. Corn, will you
call the next party.
Atty Beeker: Did
you have any witnesses?
Chairman: Do
you have any witnesses Mr. Cox?
Witness Cox: I
did but neither of them are here.
Mrs. Corn: The
next party is Chuck Pressley.
Chairman: Mr.
Pressley, do you have your affirmation on file?
Witness Pressley: It
was on file when I was the first person told to be contested at our first
meeting, I think.
Chairman: O.K.,
thank you.
Atty Beeker: For
all those people who signed an affirmation at the last meeting, you are still
under that. I just wanted to remind
everybody of that.
Chairman: O.K.,
Mr. Pressley, while you’re doing that, I think we’ll take about a 10 minute
break, if you’ll take care of that. If
you’re a party to this and you have not signed your affirmation, during this
about 10 minute break, would you be sure to see Mrs. Corn and get that taken
care of. We’ll come back around 8:15.
BREAK.
Chairman: Mr.
Pressley, if you will return to the microphone.
Witness Pressley: Thank
you. I apologize for that mistake, but
it was nice to have a break. My name is
Chuck Pressley, and I live at 39 Foxfire Lane.
That’s in the Foxwood Subdivision.
We have lived there for six years and as of December I am the current
President of the Foxwood Property Owners’ Association which represents 59 property
owners, 44 of those property owners
have residences in the subdivision known as Foxwood, and I am here on behalf of
our Property Owners’ Association to
request that you not honor these variances as requested by this group here. For the past two years during our annual
meetings it has been a topic of discussion, the racetrack and the noise and our
concern over possible negative impact on our property values. When we became aware that there would be a
planning meeting we had had one of our board members attend and we have
notified our members of our Property Owners’ Association that we, as a Board,
have voted to speak against the support of these variances and we have received
no negative comments back from our property owners as we have gone through this
process and kept them informed and solicited their input so I feel like I can
say that I do speak for all of our property owners to say that we would request
that you not honor these variances. I
do have two witnesses that I would like to have speak at this time. First, Mr. Robert Payne.
Chairman: O.K.
before that, does anyone have any questions for Mr. Pressley?
S. Baldwin: Foxwood
is located where?
Witness Pressley: It’s
on Mountain Road between 191 and 25 at the crest of the ridge there between the
two. The entire subdivision is within
one mile from the proposed site.
Chairman: Any
other questions?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: O.K.
you can go ahead and call your witness.
Witness Pressley: Mr.
Payne.
Chairman: Do
you have his affirmation Mrs. Corn?
Mrs. Corn: I
do.
Witness Payne: Good evening.
Members: Good
evening.
Witness Payne: My name is Dr. Robert Payne, and I
reside with my wife, Nancy, at 70 Hounds Chase Drive in Foxwood, just under a
mile from the property being considered for a motor cross track during this
public hearing. I recently retired from
the United States Environmental Protection Agency, where I spent more than 30
years in water pollution and human health research. I have a Bachelors Degree in Biology and Geology and a Masters
and Ph.D. in Geology. There are several
concerns that I would like to address regarding this proposed track. The first concern is the proximity of the
track to Mud Creek, an important Class C tributary of the French Broad
River. As stated by Diane Silver of the
Cooperative Extension Service in her review of this application, ‘the proposed
motor cross racing facility by it’s very nature causes land disturbances as a
result of normal ongoing operations. The
entire track site consists of bare, loose soil with no vegetation to hold it in
place.’ At present, Mud Creek is listed
in the State 303-D list of impaired water bodies for non-support of aquatic
life. The North Carolina Division of
Water Quality has reported that sedimentation is the foremost pollutant
contributing to the degradation of this stream and that storm water runoff is a
significant contributor to sedimentation of the creek. The activities at the track will produce
more than just loose soil. Oil and
rubber will also be deposited onto the track, parking areas and the fueling
area surfaces during normal operations and will be included as pollutants in
the runoff that goes to Mud Creek. The
applicant has presented information to the Planning Board and in this hearing
that he proposes to irrigate the track, to mitigate dust during dry periods by
pumping water from the stream onto the track area and has included in this
application – I’m not sure if they are his photographs or from the Planning Board,
but has included a series of photographs
that show large hoses and drainage ditches that bring water to the irrigation
system and then drainage ditches that return runoff and flow back to the
adjacent creek. In essence, the
applicant is proposing to greatly increase the non-vegetative areas of this
property, which will enhance erosion, and by pumping water onto the track
areas, he will further increase sedimentation to Mud Creek. The applicant proposes no treatment of
runoff. Of greater concern to me and to
my neighbors are the elevated levels of noise that will be generated by the track
activities. If approved and I underline
that if approved, the application requests ‘up to 300 patrons and riders’,
and the daily hours of operation between 10:00 a.m. and 30 minutes before
sunset at the facility. Typically, 85,
125 and 250 cc motorcycles produce between 85 and 95, or more decibels of sound
and the racing conditions at a motor cross are of acceleration up to 10-, 12-,
13,000 rpm and then deceleration as they go over a hill and make corners,
around the multiple turn racetrack,
will obviously produce a broad spectrum of noise that will at least be those
decibel levels at the property boundaries, if not higher. The majority of these bikes would not be
street-legal. They’re brought in on
trailers due to the fact that they have increased noise emissions and they lack
lights and turn signals and proper licensing for on-road use. In numerous cases around the country – we
get into that famous hearsay – similar tracks have generated complaints by
nearby neighbors, nearby residents, due to the noise they generate. For example, in a recent legal court case in
Wayne County, Ohio, residents who lived in homes from 1000 feet to a mile away,
testified that the sounds they heard at their residences during a running of
motorcycles at the motor cross course included descriptions such as, and I will
quote from the case: ‘highly pitched,
nerve-racking, annoying, not pleasing, intolerable, irritating, noisy, sharp, unrelenting
and high pitched, obnoxious, ear piercing, aggravating, angry’. Several residents that lived closer to that
particular track testified that they could hear the motorcycles on the
racecourse from within their homes even with all the windows shut. So, within 1000 feet. The noise generated by motorcycles, by motor
cross bikes on this track in Henderson County will be no different. The bikes are no different and because of
the location in the bottom of a valley sounds will likely be carried to higher
elevations much farther than if on level terrain. My home is on an elevated bowl-shaped hill, part of the Stoney
Mountain complex, to the west-southwest of the applicant’s property and will
capture more sound than normal. We’re
all familiar with the famous ‘you put your hand behind your ear’ to capture
more sound. Indeed our entire
neighborhood is in a bowl that faces this motor cross track and so will have a
tendency to capture more sound. From my
yard, I can hear I-26 traffic, which is beyond the track area. Even during daylight areas because of the
capture effect. I wish to go on record
that I support the type of activity for our youth and for our young at heart,
but as suggested by Susan Henley Lane in her Life In The Middle column in the Times-News
earlier this week, this is not the appropriate location for a motor cross
track. I urge the Board of
Commissioners to deny the variances and to deny this special use permit
application. Thank you.
Chairman: Any
questions?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Do
you have another witness, Mr. Pressley?
Witness Pressley: Yes,
I do, Ralph Turnberg.
Witness Turnberg: Mr.
Chairman and members of the Board, I want to thank you for giving me this opportunity. I wanted to go back on an item that Karen
Smith had talked about earlier having to do with the noise mitigation in
Section I. Previously, all we have
heard about is the problems that are derived from having a nursing home or
health care facility within the two-mile radius of the track, but in Section I
under the Noise and Mitigation – where it says ‘a good faith effort to reduce
the noise effects, if any, that the principle use may have on the neighborhood’. This is the first time that I’ve seen the
word ‘neighborhood’ and not just a health care facility. And it says a
neighborhood is an area impacted by a principle use. At a previous hearing, the
statement was made that while the track was operating – I don’t know when that
was – a couple of years ago – that no one complained about the noise. I heard the noise but I made the rash
assumption that this was something that was allowed by the county and never
said anything. Once I determined that I
had a chance to speak about the noise I was at the Planning Board Meeting and I
want to remind you, of course, that the Planning Board unanimously turned down
this application although it didn’t deny the – recommended that it be denied.
One item that had to do with a letter that was received from Heritage
Hills has to do with a letter from M. Susan Wolfker – Heritage Hills Retirement
Community has not complaint. Again,
Karen Smith indicated that there are, in deed, two separate facilities
there. The retirement community is not
the health care facility. The health care
facility is a nursing home and I don’t see a letter from the administrator of
the nursing home saying she has no objections to this racetrack. Now the last item I would address having to
do with the nature of the noise. The
decibels are one thing and noise abatement and whatever you can talk about it
all you want, but the noise of a two-stroke engine is irritating and we can
hear traffic on I-25 but it is a low frequency noise. It’s more like a mountain
stream than anything. But a two-stroke
motorcycle is more like a dentist drill or something. When you have a chainsaw running for eight hours it is indeed
objectionable. So I would hope that you
would concur with the Planning Board and agree with their decision to not allow
these variances. Thank you.
Chairman: Any
questions?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Thank
you sir. Mrs. Corn, will you call the
next party.
Mrs. Corn: Janice
Moore.
Witness Moore: Good evening. I’m Janice Moore, and by looking at the map,
I believe I’m about 5 to 6 tenths of a mile.
Do I need to do something?
Chairman: Did
you give your affirmation statement to Mrs. Corn?
Witness Moore: Yes.
Chairman: Did
you file it with Mrs. Corn?
Witness Moore: OK, I thought I had given her one
last time, but I have my witnesses ones with me and I have mine too. Well, it is in here, I’m just not putting my
finger on it.
Chairman: Would
you like to sign a new one?
Witness Moore: Here it is.
Chairman: O.K. Thank you.
Witness Moore: Thank you. Well again, I want to iterate, we’re not here – this is not the ‘People
versus the children of Henderson County’.
We are here because, in fact, I can’t believe we are here. We’ve spent two years working very hard on
an ordinance about motor sport facilities.
I was involved in that. I can’t
tell you how many countless hours that we spent on that. How much money was expended on that, how
many hundreds of people showed up at all the meetings supporting this, and why
we are even here is beyond my comprehension.
What I feel like the issue we are dealing with here is whether or not we
are going to ever have the planning involved in this county and whether we’re
going to stick to it. If we are going
to make rules are we gonna keep them?
Are they going to change tomorrow?
My home has already been ruined because of lack of rules, visually. Now is it going to be hearing also? And what’s gonna come next? It just seems like for five years all we are
doing is fighting one thing after another and I would like to feel that once
that we work hard to get some ordinance or some planning in this county that we
don’t have to turn around and fight it again.
The hours that we are spending, the nights that we are losing by even
having to attend these meetings and fight something that has already been
decided upon once is just beyond my comprehension. I’m hearing a lot of – well for instance, I went down to listen
to the noise checks the other night. I
found the place by the pillar of dust that was billowing up in the air when I –
I just followed the dust cloud and found the place to start with. So I think there’s gonna be a little problem with pollution here to
start with, and I cannot, in my wildest dreams, fathom how we can have a
noiseless racetrack, unless it’s gonna be an indoor facility and I haven’t
heard that spoke about yet. So I do
have some serious concerns about this.
I mean I do think a motor cross ¼¼ TAPE RAN OUT
Witness Moore: but
dealing with variances in my business, I mean usually we are talking a variance
of a couple of feet or six inches or somebody that wants to put a little
business in their basement that none of the neighbors will even know is there
or something. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about a major, major
variance here from what was originally planned, and I just think that we should
uphold the few laws that we do have in the county that we have worked so hard
to get instated here. And that’s all I
have to say, except I would like to call my witnesses. And the first one would be Glenn Clark.
Chairman: Did
you have witnesses listed previously?
Witness Moore: Yes, I did.
Chairman: Does
anybody have any questions for Mrs. Moore before… Mrs. Corn, do we have Mrs. Moore listed as a party?
Mrs. Corn: Yes.
Chairman: O.K.
Witness Moore: O.K.
Chairman: Any
questions of Mrs. Moore?
NO RESPONSE.
Witness Moore: Thank you very much.
Atty Beeker: Who’s
your first witness?
Witness Moore: My
first witness is Glenn Clark.
Witness Clark: Hi,
my name is Glenn Clark. I live across
the interstate from the track. I live
next to Whispering Hills Subdivision, maybe a half mile from the location of it
and all I wanna say is that anytime I’m outside and the cycles are running you
can hear them clearly. The other night
when they were testing it sounded like they were more or less out in my front yard
and this is above the noise of the interstate noise and we hear it loudly at my
house also. If you’re in the house and
have a window open you hear these cycles which we do not leave windows open
because of this. And, by the way, I
have two hearing aids, so I still hear it and that’s basically what I have to
say.
Chairman: Any
questions?
S. Baldwin: Where
was your property located?
Witness Clark: It’s
located on Glenwood Lane, next to Whispering Hills Subdivision, between
Whispering Hills and Fletcher Academy property.
S. Baldwin: O.K. Thank you.
Witness Clark: Really,
I guess I would be considered part of Whispering Hills.
Chairman: Any
other questions?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Thank
you Mr. Clark. Who is your other
witness Mrs. Moore?
Witness Moore: I have, actually, three others. My next one was Karalee Clark.
Chairman: Mrs.
Clark.
Atty Beeker: Is
she a minor witness?
Witness Clark: I’m
a minor, definitely. Good evening. My name is Karalee Clark, and just in case
you wondered, Glenn is my husband. I
think the last time we someone came to your Commission meeting, Glenn talked
about the Zoning Ordinance that was going in place and made a proposal and
asked that our property be unzoned like the hospital and the academy since our
property adjoins and you all were gracious enough to consider his request. I’m here on behalf of young people. I, too, at a younger age, had a motorcycle and
had a son with a 3-wheel ATM vehicle and it was very difficult to find a place
to ride. So I am very sympathetic to
that. In fact, Glenn ended up building
a trailer so we could trail his cycle so he would have a place to ride. So we are well aware of the importance of
doing these kind of activities. When
this cycling first started we understood from neighbors in Whispering Hills
that it was a family owned operation and it was just family members and we were
rather shocked to find out that it was much larger than family. And at the time we first heard it we
wondered what in the world it was. It
sounded just like a swarm of bees right over your head so you were constantly
looking over your shoulder and Glenn and I both have busy careers so our time
at home is limited and when we are home we’re outside. And so it makes it really difficult when you
hear this undulating noise that goes up and down as they accelerate and then
decelerate and those kind of activities.
I am also a member of the Board of Health. I am the nurse representative
for the Board of Health and you all probably know that. Several years ago the Board of Health sent a
recommendation to the County Commissioners regarding air pollution. The quality of the air that is in the
mountains that most of us are very well aware of, and so this whole activity
brings up that question in my mind but it also brings up the question about
noise. It was at my insistence that
Glen got his ears – that’s what I call them – because he became more and more
difficult to communicate with and hearing is one of those things that occurs
with aging that you start losing. So
when I came to the last meeting – I know that I have one minute left – I see
that, the one thing that really concerned me was the fact that everyone thought
it was an age thing. This is just
something where the older adults don’t want the children. And in our community, there’s a huge amount
of people walking in the neighborhood constantly, so there’s a lot of outside
activities and most of those people are older adults, without question. In researching for this I found an article
and I brought it to turn in as witness.
It is from Time Magazine, April 4, 2004. The title of the article is Just Too Loud. It talks about the decibels and all the
sound that surrounds us. It talks about
the OSHA requirements, and a statement in here that really got my attention was
‘a single noisy motor scooter driving through Paris in the middle of the night
can awaken as many as 200,000 people’.
There is strong evidence that is coming out from NIH that indicates that
the constant bombardment of noise in our society we know it’s affecting our
children, because we have more people coming into the work place who can’t
hear. And then we also know that it’
causing increase in hypertension, heart disease and depression. Thank you.
Atty Beeker: Did
you intend to offer that into evidence – that article?
Witness Clark: Yes.
Atty Beeker: I
guess you would be the one doing it? Do
you object?
M. Edney: We
object – just like all the other objections.
Atty Beeker: You
just want a standing objection?
CAN”T MAKE OUT WHAT WAS SAID HERE.
Witness Moore: My next witness I would like to call
is George Bond.
Witness Bond: Good
evening Commissioners. Thank you for
letting me comment. Let me say that I’m
a fellow who couldn’t hold a job. I’ve
had at least three different careers and each one bears on this. I started my career in public … and air pollution control. I also ran the air pollution control agency
in Durham so I have a little knowledge about that. I have been a general contractor and I have asked for variances on
one way or another for building properties so I know a little bit about
variances. And I have been general
manage of the company that owned two of the health care facilities that are
within the radius that are being in question today. So I speak from each one of those perspectives. First, let me say that I was born at night,
but I wasn’t born last night. And for a gentleman, any gentleman, to stand up
and suggest that we are not going to hear 20 or 30 screaming two-cycle engines
anywhere off the property insults my intelligence. Where I live, and I live at 515 View Rock Lane, and I should have
said it, up on the side of Stoney Mountain.
I look right over the property and I’m less than a mile the way the crow
flies. I hear trucks stopping and
starting at the Interstate. I hear dogs
barking on Mountain Road. I hear
airplanes taking off from the airport.
Sound does rise, and I certainly hear it. So the most of who won’t hear
it, I think is … and I would reject that out of hand. Secondly, I am concerned about the pollution. Two-cycle engines, and most of these motorcycles
are two-cycle engines are the most polluting engines we’ve got on the planet.
I’ve got a lawn mower. You’ve got a
lawn mower. They’re just as bad, but at
least the owers are scattered out all over Henderson County. We don’t all run them on the same day. But we’re going to have a problem with those
machines. They’re in a natural
bowl. We have thermal inversions in
this area. I see it from my house and
watch the smoke rise 25, 50, 75 feet and then it just flattens out on lots of
days and that’s what we’re going to have. It’s just like a lid on a garbage can
and unfortunately we’ll see it, not every day but we will see it at some points
in time. Third, in my life as a general
contractor, I have had lots of occasions where I approached Boards and suggested
that we need to expand a house and the law said 50 feet and we couldn’t get but
49 feet 6 and a quarter inches. A matter of inches, a matter of feet. Certainly that’s what a variance is designed
for but when you’re asking for a variance not over 1/6th of a mile
or 1/3 of a mile or half a mile but a mile and two-thirds out of two miles, I
suggest that goes way way beyond the spirit of a variance. And lastly, in my previous life I’d suggest
I was General Manager of Aaron Enterprises and we operated two of those
facilities. I spent hundreds of hours
in both of them. I was pretty eminently
known to those residents. Those are old
people. If they could be here they’d be
here tonight telling you – we don’t need that additional noise but they are
bound to their beds. Their bound to
wheel chairs and they just can’t get out and say that. Their health is poor. They have difficulty breathing, difficulty
sleeping, just as was suggested here before. So, for that reason I also ask you to not consider this
variance. I’ll close by saying that
Henderson County needs a facility. I’ve
got grandchildren, and they want to ride bikes. And I rode a bike in college
for four years, and a small cycle. I
know it’s fun. It’s important to the
kids. We need a place but we don’t need
it here. It’s too noisy. It’s going to be a major source of pollution for that
area. It defies the spirit and the
notion of a variance where again, not a matter of inches but a matter of 85% of
the variance area and it’s too close to at least 12 health care facilities in
the area. We’ve got laws on the books to protect us from this very sort of
thing and I urge you to uphold the law that you are elected to uphold, and
secondly, uphold the recommendation of your Planning Board which studied this
matter very carefully. Thank you.
Witness Moore: My last witness is Dr. Burton
Keppler.
Chairman: What
was his name, I’m sorry?
Witness Moore: Burton Keppler.
Chairman: Keppler,
thank you.
Witness Keppler: Good
evening.
Members: Good
evening.
Witness Keppler: My
name is C. Burton Keppler. I’m a
retired Anesthesiologist. I live with
my wife, Dorothy, at 223 Astor Court, Hendersonville. I was the Chief Anesthesiologist at Park Ridge Hospital for many
years prior to my retirement. Growing
up, my father had a motorcycle and I enjoyed riding on a motorcycle. It’s fun.
However, in my years of practice I cared for many of what I call ‘murdercycle
victims’. Many, many of them. While as Americans, we are free to do what
we want, and I can do unwise things. Is
it fair for me to do something unwise and ask you to pay for it – to pay for
the results. You see, those injuries
are very expensive to care for and many times the people don’t have insurance
and the health care facility and those providing the care don’t get paid. I
have experience that many times. So if
you were to give this variance I think one of the requirements you should have
is that the owners should have to have adequate insurance to take care of any
injury that occurs. They can charge
fees for using the place to pay for that insurance but they should have to have
insurance to pay for the fees and not ask me to pay for it again. I contributed enough free service for that
type of thing in the past and as a retired person I don’t have a lot of income
and I don’t care to pay for it. I have
one other comment. The fact that on the
weekends when there are motor sport activities the emergency room and the
operating rooms are much busier than usual.
I know about that from experience.
And so it’s just a thing that we need to consider. If they’re going to do it they should have
to pay their own way and not ask the general public to pay for it. I appreciate
your time. Thank you.
Chairman: Will
you call the next party, Mrs. Corn.
Mrs. Corn: Mark
Wright.
Witness Wright: I’m
Mark Wright. I live at 80 April Lane
next to Fletcher Academy, next to Park Ridge Hospital, approximately one mile
from where the track is at now.
Actually I just recently moved to Henderson County within the last three
or four months but I do have family who lives there in that community. My mother-in-law and my sister-in-law both
own property at the same place where we live.
So I guess what I am hearing here tonight is that we all have issues
with sounds. Some sounds are more
irritating…
Chairman: Can
we get your affirmation before you continue?
Witness Wright: I’m
sorry?
Chairman: Can
we get your affirmation?
Witness Wright: Actually,
I think I had already signed one earlier.
Mrs. Corn: I
don’t have it.
Chairman: Again,
I remind you. If you’re going to be
party, if you would be sure you have the yellow sheet signed so that we can
proceed on with some expediency.
Witness Wright: Thank
you. The noise test. We spend some time out on my front porch which is
approximately about a mile from that area. And to be honest with you I came
from the country. I used to live with
in Candler where everything is quiet except for the occasional chain saw or
something but what’s really struck me most about the area is the fact that the
interstate noise is more prevalent than anything. I heard someway say it’s
a babbling brook and I would disagree with that totally. That noise is more prevalent than anything
out there - is the sound of the interstate and now you’re adding a 5-lane
highway to 25. Those are some
encompassing sounds right there. I do have some input about Mr. Bennett. I have been a real estate agent for 14 years
and I sold Mr. Bennett the property when he purchased it. What he was looking for was a recreational
place for kids to ride and the thing just escalated. People found out about it, more people wanted to come. So the question is you are asking is why is
there a variance meeting here. I’ve
heard a lot of people say that and this is the avenue you take, you know. You can’t stop these things. You’re never going to stop somebody asking
for a variance for something. There’s
always going to continue, so I mean – yeah, you have your right to give your
voice here and so on and so forth. I
know for a fact that when Mr. Bennett purchased this property he made inquiries
to the Henderson County Zoning Board to find out if this was something that
would fall in line. And I know that on two occasions he reported to me that
this was something that could be done there, and his bank, his lending
institution, Blue Ridge Savings Bank, talked to someone at the Zoning
Board. They faxed him a copy of what the
uses were and they seemed to think there would be no problem at that time. So, does he have a hardship? He’s got a mortgage on this place and I
think that’s a hardship. A hardship
that could break the man if he doesn’t find some sort of way to evolve. Now I know
Mr. Bennett. I’ve known him all my life
and if he says he’s here willing to work with all the community to say, hey
listen, let’s find a way to do this that everybody can be happy, then maybe we should look at that from that
viewpoint and say – what can we do?
I’ll put it this way. If you
live in this area, you knew you had an interstate there, you’ve got a train
track that runs right through the property as well, there’s a lot of noise
there anyway. To say that that’s going
to affect your property values on limited operation, I don’t really think so. And
that’s speaking from a real estate agent’s viewpoint which I’ve sold about 50
million dollars in real estate in 14 years.
A lot of people wouldn’t pick those places to live because there was
interstate noise. That would be the first reason they wouldn’t look. It wouldn’t be the fact that there was a
motor cross, right now if you lived right next door to it I could understand it
but you’re always going to hear things especially in this part of the country
where there’s continuous chain saws running here, it seems to be. You always hear that or you hear somebody
run their lawn mower or there’s something that’s going on that’s producing
noise. It’s just a high noise
area. And I put to you if not in an
industrial park, where then? Where then
do you find a place to put this because if you came out into the country where
I thought it was gonna be quiet and you put it in there, I’d really be
upset. It just seems to me that if you
give Mr. Bennett the chance to work with you in some form or fashion he will
find a way to make it where it’s tolerable for everyone. And I think that should be brought into
consideration at this point. But I would just say this much, my testimony here
tonight is that Mr. Bennett did go to great lengths to try to find out if this
was going to be a problem. He may have been misinformed. That may have been the situation. I wasn’t
there when he talked to the Zoning Board and the Planning Board, but I know he
did take strides to do that. I know his
bank took strides to do that, and now he’s in a situation where his financial
future is on the line. So, in my
opinion, if that’s not a hardship, nothing is.
There’s nothing more than a hardship than that when absolutely your
family’s livelihood is on the line here.
So that’s all I had to say about that. Thank you very much for your
time.
Chairman: Any
questions for Mr. Wright?
NO RESPONSE.
Witness Wright: Thank
you.
Mrs. Corn: Douglas
Dunlap.
Witness Dunlap: Mr.
Chairman and Board. Douglas
Dunlap. I live at 331 Brookside Camp
Road. I’m the third generation to live
at that address. It’s literally up the
creek if you will. Actually, it’s south of there, half a mile from the proposed
racetrack. I’m right across from the Double
T Golf Center, so you’ve got a pretty good idea where that is. I did call a year ago and spoke with the
County Manager and the Planning Board, so it’s not like I just decided to show
up here and say, hey, I don’t want this in my back yard. So I did pursue this a year ago and they
were unaware that this was going on.
Well, obviously, they’re aware now.
So that’s why we’re here. Little
did I think that I would be here either, but here we are. At the previous meeting that we had here,
Bill Harper, Jr. spoke on behalf of the motorcycle dealers in Henderson County
about the importance of commerce and employment, etc. in Henderson County, and
nobody applauds that any more than I do.
I work for a small business just down the street from the Harpers, and I
promote employment and commerce. We
need more of it. I do understand racing
very well. A comment was made earlier. I’m not retired. I understand motor sports
and am probably as versed as anybody in here about the performance vehicles,
what makes noise and what doesn’t, and what I hear from this motor cross track
is noise. I’m smart enough to know that.
I have nothing against Mr. Bennett or any of these motorcycle folks, I
know a lot of them as I look across the audience. The Planning Board’s already talked and passed their
recommendation to you. The biggest
thing I’ve got on my list today is should you guys and gals approve this thing,
who’s going to police this. You know, who’s gonna limit and monitor the number
of vehicles down there, the activities, the size, the lights, you know the
days, etc. I really question that the
most besides the noise thing. Again,
I’m a half mile away. I hope you’ll
consider that. I don’t think any of you
folks live that close, and in closing, my hat’s off to you. I wouldn’t be sitting up here where you guys
are for the world, because ultimately, when it’s over, somebody’s going to be
unhappy and somebody’s going to be happy.
Right now, I don’t know which way that’s gonna to go, but I commend you and the preparations these ladies
have made on all this documentation and stuff.
It’s quite amazing the depth you folks have gone to to prepare and look
at it every way you can. So I’ll close my comments for the sake of being
repetitive. I do have a major witness
and three minors.
S. Baldwin: I
have a question?
Witness Dunlap: Sure.
S. Baldwin: You
said you live down stream, up stream from…?
Witness Dunlap: Actually,
if you’re at the racetrack, I would be south towards Brookside Camp Road. I can stand on my front porch - I look,
on 22 acres, I look at Mud Creek, and I’ve lived there 47 years of the
100 year flood plain and I can tell you all about the water on Mud Creek.
S. Baldwin: O.K. So you have property in the flood plain?
Witness Dunlap: Yes.
S. Baldwin: And
you said you live on a farm? Did you say that?
Witness Dunlap: Yes,
yes I do.
S. Baldwin: And
what kind of agriculture activity goes on where you live?
Witness Dunlap: Well
presently, we put up about 2,000 bales of hay and we have about 30 head of
cattle on the place at this moment.
S. Baldwin: So
you cut hay off your property that’s in the flood plain?
Witness Dunlap: I
do.
S. Baldwin: And
you have cattle that’s on the property in the flood plain?
Witness Dunlap: I
do.
S. Baldwin: O.K.,
thank you.
Witness Dunlap: You’re
welcome.
Chairman: Any
other questions?
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: You
may call your witnesses.
Witness Dunlap: My
major witness is Robert Dunlap.
Witness R. Dunlap: Good
evening.
Members: Good
evening.
Witness R. Dunlap:
I am Robert Dunlap, the father of the gentleman that just spoke. I’ll have to make one correction. He said the third generation. I am the sixth generation to have owned this
farm. And also I am a dual property
owner. I own the first house that was
built in Grimesdale approximately 50 years ago, and my main concern about this
property is – like I say – the farm is approximately a half a mile. My
residence in Grimesdale is approximately a mile. My objection to this is the noise, but first let me say that it
has been referred to as “only in an industrial park” and there has been several
comments made about I-26, 25, airplanes and all that. To me, this industrial park is a necessity, just like I-26, 25
and so forth. I, myself, am a retired industrial
employee – 37 ½ years at Ecusta Corporation in Brevard. And all I can say in regards to this
industrial park – it is one of the cleanest, quietest parks in Western North
Carolina that I know of. Like I say the
farm joins this property and I have no complaint with the industrial park, but
to the other part, the proposed track - no sir. Can’t go that way. And
also, we would like to see the industrial park remain as it presently is. So it is my recommendation that the Board, the
Chairman and the Board, support the Planning Board and decline this
operation. And in closing, I would like
to add one thing. I was present at the
testing day before yesterday, and there is quiet a bit of difference in when I
picked beans there 60 years ago. That
land has been and could be used agriculture again. Thank you.
Chairman; Thank
you Mr. Dunlap. You want to call your
next witness.
Witness Dunlap: Certainly. I would call Jay Rogers.
Witness Rogers: I’ve
handed in my signature. I’m Jay
Rogers. I live in Hendersonville in
Hickory Hills, which is off of Brookside Camp Road. I’m a member of the Henderson County Environmental Advisory
Committee. I am very concerned with the
sedimentation pollution of Mud Creek that the site will cause. Mud and clouds of dust is certainly part of
the appeal and fun of motor cross.
Permanently situated next to a water way, it would have a catastrophic
effect on the water quality. I believe
that compliance with the North Carolina Sedimentation Pollution Control Act
must be accomplished prior to issuing a variance or permit. Now compliance requires that the mud must be
kept on the site. The mud must be kept
out of the stream. A buffer zone along
the stream must be provided. Ground
cover must be established on the site, and there be a certificate of plan
approval from DENR, the North Carolina Department of Environmental and Natural
Resources. If all that isn’t done, I
fail to see how a variance or permit can be granted, and I’d like to submit in
evidence the proceedings of the last two EAC meetings that have dealt with the
technical and regulatory aspects of sedimentation, which you all have in your
office. O.K. Thank you.
Witness Dunlap: Eva
Ritchey.
Witness Ritchey: Good
evening. I’m Eva Ritchey, and I’m here
at the request of Paul Donahue, Chair of the Henderson County Democratic Party,
to speak on behalf of the Henderson County Democratic Party. One of our greatest Presidents, Franklin Delenor
Roosevelt, said “if you treat people right, they will treat you right 90% of
the time”. Now I’m not sure if that bit of wit at the end was from
discouragement or a call to reflection, but treating people right and the 10%
who insist on self-interest are the two most important rationales for land use
planning. A comprehensive land use plan
that is flexible enough to extend variances but accommodates them rarely is a
necessity for any community that wishes to grow in an orderly and hospitable
manner. The Democratic Party of
Henderson County supports a comprehensive land use plan and believes the
current controversy surrounding the proposed siting of a motor cross track in
the vicinity of a hospital facility is a direct result of the current county
administration’s failure to act in a timely manner…
Chairman: Ms.
Ritchey, would you limit your comments to current information for this
particular thing and not a political statement.
Witness Ritchey: I
will. Excuse me Sir.
Chairman: You’re
excused.
Witness Ritchey: Sir,
I’m sure you’re not trying to set the precedent that the voices of 18,000
people in this community do not have the right to three minutes.
Chairman: …
18,000 people, we’re having a hearing
hear for a specific purpose.
Witness Ritchey: That’s
fine.
Chairman: Not
for a party statement from the Democratic Party
Witness Ritchey: Due
to the failure, all parties in this dispute are being harmed. The young people of our community who need
recreation facilities are harmed by the delay in the construction of these
facilities. The owners and developers
of properties are harmed by the uncertainty of the process and the specter of
litigation. The established land owners
are harmed by the absence of appropriate ordinances to protect and secure their
investment. The Democratic Party of
Henderson County believes that a motor cross track for young people is a good
idea but that the siting of it within two miles of Park Ridge Hospital is not
appropriate to this pre-existing use.
Further, the Democratic Party of Henderson County opposes granting a
variance for this purpose since this would only undermine an already weak set
of land use protections. We encourage
all parties to redirect their efforts towards finding a suitable site for the
motor cross track. Thank you.
Witness Dunlap: I
call my last witness, Paul Yeazell.
Witness Yeazell: My
name is Paul Yeazell. I live in Cannon
Woods. I consider looking at the
map. I’m about, a little less than half
a mile from the track. My wife and I
retired here 15 years ago. One of the greatest attractions was the natural beauty
and pleasant environment, priceless treasures enjoyed by natives and newcomers
alike. But for some of us, the value of
our homes and the peace of the place is threatened by the motor cross. Let me comment on the nature of the
noise. Much noise has a rather constant
volume level. The sound of traffic on
I-26 is with us almost all the time, but it’s a hum that doesn’t change
much. I can hear it. Lawn mowers have a predictable volume level,
rising and falling gradually as they come closer and move away. I can adjust to these sounds and focus on
what I’m doing or thinking. Some
noises, like the sound of a passing railroad don’t last long, and some are even
pleasant although the train’s whistle can be intrusive. But I know it’s a necessary warning and the
train and its whistle will soon pass on.
The sounds of the motor cross are different. I experienced them last summer when the track was operating
illegally. They were not something that I could push onto the back burner of my
consciousness. The shrill peaks and
sudden roarings as the bikes suddenly sped up or slowed down cried out for my
attention and made me retreat indoors behind closed windows. Even then the irritating sound often
penetrated. It wasn’t a question of db
level, the loudness. It was the surging
and ebbing, the nature of the noise, and unlike the train whistle, it did not
go away. It was there throughout the
day and even into the night, and I knew it would return the next day and the
next week. In the twilight of our
lives, my wife and I enjoy warm days when we can open the windows, feel the
breeze and enjoy the sound of the birds at a time when the mail brings weekly
notices of how businesses are protecting our privacy. We ask you Commissioners to protect the privacy of our
place. There seems to be a need for a
facility like the one under discussion but it shouldn’t be here where it can
invade the lives, not only of many home owners, but those who are sick in the
hospital or confined to rest homes, perhaps in their last days. Not here where it can shatter the peace and
natural beauty of a special place. I urge you to follow the unanimous
recommendation of the County Planning Board and deny variances from established
Ordinances. The Petitioner’s track
belongs elsewhere, not in this place.
Thank you.
Witness Dunlap: Is
Stan Kumor present? I had him listed
also as my. It is my negligence in not
announcing it previously.
Atty Beeker: Is
he major or minor?
Witness Dunlap: Minor.
Chairman: How
many witnesses did you have?
Atty Beeker: They’ve
all been minor except for his Dad.
VARIOUS TALKING BETWEEN MEMBERS AND PARTIES, SOME NOT
AT A MIC. (Can’t really hear what is
going on.)
Atty Beeker: Is
it the pleasure of the Board to admit it along with all the other?
Chairman: I
don’t know what it is.
Atty Beeker: It’s
a document and Mike’s objection is that it’s hearsay and so…
Witness Kumor: A
text book on physics is hearsay?
S. Baldwin: We’ve
been entertaining hearsay all evening.
Witness Kumor: Yeah,
I guess so. Can everyone hear me. O.K. I would like to address a possible
misconception about noise and noise levels as put forth by the gentleman from
Florida. He stated that a single
motorcycle produced a noise level of 96 decibels and that an additional bike would only add 3 decibels to that and
that each additional bike would likewise add just 3 decimals. The impression
being given is that one additional bike increased the noise level about 3% and
then by doing the math, 15 bikes would produce 138 decimals, O.K., around a 40%
increase. Well unfortunately, the
decibel scale is like the Richter earthquake scale, it’s a logarithmic scale
and not linear. An 8.0 earthquake is 10
times stronger than a 7, and a 9.0 earthquake is 100 times stronger than a 7.0. O.K.
So, on the decibel scale, a reading of 100 is 10 times stronger than the
intensity of a reading at 90, and a reading at 110 is 100 times more intense
than a reading at 90, O.K. Now,
intensity and volume or loudness are many times interpreted to mean the same
thing. Technically, they have very
different meanings. Intensity is the
measure of the power flowing in the wave, while loudness or volume is the
appearance strength of the sound sensation as received by the ear and
interpreted by the brain. Now volume or
loudness, thankfully, is not directly proportional to intensity, so it doesn’t
go up, the loudness doesn’t go up 10 times, but volume, however, does double
with each 10 decibel increase in intensity.
Therefore, a sound of 106 decibels is twice as loud as a sound with an
intensity of 96 and so on. Thus, a 136
decibel sound level is 16 times as loud as a 96 decimal sound level. So, two bikes running together produce a
sound only 40%, not 3%, louder than one bike, but 15 or 16 bikes will produce a
volume equal to 16 bikes, 16 times one bike.
I have provided each of you with a handout that I prepared which has a
chart of relative volume versus decibel scale and the number of bikes. The reference used to produce this chart is
a physics book used in the Henderson County High Schools here at West
Henderson, and I have included a relevant page in the handout. I attended the demonstration on Tuesday and
the demonstration on Tuesday was nothing like a race event. It was a practice event in my estimation. I was able to find the location. I had never been there before but I was able
to find it like another gentleman by the cloud of dust coming up and my concern
is that the dust is probably more of a concern than the noise. Fine particles of dust will travel two
miles, and if you are in a hospital with an asthmatic condition or in a nursing
home where you don’t have air conditioning and you have to have the windows
open, this could be detrimental to your health. It could kill you. And so
when I went there the demonstration was nothing like a race. There was 10 bikes
on the track at one time. They were
spread around the track, and most were at less than full throttle. As described, you would have 15 to 16 bikes
lined up at a starting line with the riders revving their engines, and then when
the signal to go was given 15 bikes would start up, then at full throttle in
the worse case, you would have 15 large bikes on the main track and 15 smaller
ones on the preliminary track and both of them, both of those races starting at
the same time. My recommendation would
be that you follow the recommendation of your Planning Board and deny the
variance being applied for. Thank you.
Atty Beeker: Mr.
Chairman, may I ask Mr. Edney a question?
Under the Rules of Evidence, would this be something that would be
considered an exception of the hearsay rule, like a treatise?
M. Edney: The
front page, yeah, but it is not (couldn’t hear remainder).
Atty Beeker: O.K.
Witness Kumor: The
front page is basically the bibliographical reference. O.K.?
This is where I got the information, so that is not hearsay.
Chairman: Well,
the Board will have to deal with that. I think your question…
Atty Beeker: I’ll
have to look at that, yeah.
S. Baldwin: I
did have a question for Mr. Robert Dunlap.
Mr. Dunlap did you say at one time that the property that is in question
was used as a bean field?
Witness R.Dunlap: Yes
Sir.
Member: Thank
you.
Chairman: Mrs.
Corn, will you call the next party.
Mrs. Corn: Dave
Sherlin.
NO RESPONSE.
Mrs. Corn: James
Owen.
Witness Owens: Hello, I’m James Owen and my
property is adjoining Mr. Bennett’s property and the concerns that I have are just like everybody else here with
noise because I have a home on the property, but also the Edgerton Road. In the past, we share that road because he goes in at the front and then I go
to the end of it, and it’s a gravel road, and in the past there have been
vehicles that have been parked down that road loading and unloading bikes and
then driving down into the motor cross property, and several times at the end
of their racing, or whatever it is, when they go to put their bikes away,
they’ll drive up to where their vehicle is on Edgerton Road. And what they’ll do is - will take one last run or will take the run
down Edgerton Road. And it’s a gravel road and then they spin out and so
there’s flying gravel and there’s a lot of holes in the road because of that. But,
it doesn’t happen all the time but it has happened quite a bit. And that’s all I have.
Chairman: Any
questions for Mr. Owen?
NO RESPONSE:
Chairman: Mrs.
Corn will you call your next party.
Mrs. Corn: Bill
Harper, Jr.
Chairman: Mr.
Harper.
Witness Harper: I’m Bill Harper, Jr. I live on Lakeside Drive in the Valley Hill
section and the thing that we’ve listened to – we’ve listened to a lot of
speakers here tonight and you want to keep your eye on one major fact. This facility operated for a year and a
half. Now in this year and a half the
wind has blown. You’ve heard about wind blowing. You’ve heard about everything - any natural thing that could
happen. Well it’s happened in the year
and a half. You’ve had floods. You’ve
had everything. And in this year and a
half, not one, not one single complaint from anybody but you get here tonight
and you see people are recruited that never had a clue that this facility was
operating until somebody contacted them and talked them into coming to this
meeting. So when you, when you… who complained?
SOMEONE IN AUDIENCE SPEAKS.
Witness Harper: Who’d she file a complaint with?
Chairman: Mr.
Harper, direct your comments to the Board of Commissioners. And would you hold
your comments in the audience.
Witness Harper: Alright. Well when I get through she can tell us when she filed and who
she filed a complaint with. That’s the
year and a half - now after it was closed, everybody jumped on the bandwagon
after the track was closed, as soon as they found out about it. And that will
be about - I think I made my point there.
Thank you.
Chairman: You
have any questions for Mr. Harper.
NO RESPONSE.
Chairman: Thank
you Sir.
AUDIENCE CLAPS.
Chairman: Do
you have any other parties Mrs. Corn?
Mrs. Corn: No
Sir, I don’t. I do have one party who
asked if he can be allowed to make an additional comment.
Atty Beeker: Do
you have any objection to that?
M. Edney: Who
is it?
Mrs. Corn: Frank
Cox.
Atty Beeker: You
called extra parties - you called your parties back tonight, so, I would allow
it.
Chairman: Mr.
Cox.
Witness Cox: One
more thought that I wanted to add, which I think is pertinent. For most parties, the single largest asset
that they have would be their home. And
I think there is a preponderance of evidence that the.....TAPE RUNS OUT… as a
rule, vote with their pocketbook. They
voted to come to this area by purchasing property. Some of them have lived here
all their lives. Some are transplants
but they chose this area for a multitude of reasons. Peace and tranquility is an asset. It’s not a joke. It is a real asset. Some people have lived in cities that they hope to God, they
never cross into again. When they come
to Hendersonville, North Carolina, they came here because this is a great place
to be. There’s kids here too that need
a track, but they voted with their pocketbook to the peace and tranquility that
was here, whether they lived here before or just seem to stay around, and I
think that vote is very, very, very important.
Also, the gentleman who made a statement that there are people who have
spoken tonight who were just recruited to come in here, well that’s way off
base, I do believe.
Chairman: If
you would, just keep your comments to the Board.
Witness Cox: O.K.
Yes.
Atty Beeker: All
the parties will be given an opportunity to make closing arguments, so if what
you’re doing is make a closing argument, you will be able to do that at the
end.
Witness Cox: O.K. And my last thought is that a lot of times
ordinances are very broad for a reason because nobody knows what the future
holds so they have to make it broad, but most of these ordinances are simple
ones, like noise and the use of land around housing developments. Those are
very, very important, and I think to go against those ordinances, I think that
is a very, very big deal when we allow something that really takes a different
course than what people who have voted with their confidence and their finances
to come here have come here for. To
leave that track, I think it is a really, really, really solemn choice if we do
it, so I do encourage you to not make that choice, because by doing that, you
vote against the majority of all the residents, I believe of this area.
Chairman: Do
you have any other parties Mrs. Corn?
Mrs. Corn: No
Sir.
Chairman: O.K.
we have this auditorium until 9:30,
which is the hour that’s here now. And
what we’ll do is continue this meeting until the 3rd of May at 7:00
at 100 North King Street at the Board of County Commissioners’ Meeting, and we
won’t have any time limits there, and we’re going to be there until we get
done, so just bring your lunch with you…
we’ll pick back up at the cross-examination and closing arguments.
Atty Beeker: We’ll
need a motion to continue it Mr. Chairman, and anyone who has spoke as a party,
or if you have parties who are not here, please have them back because this
will be their opportunity for cross examination and in fairness make sure all
your witnesses come back.
? Someone?: Can
you repeat the time and date?
Chairman: May
3rd. It’s the regular monthly meeting of the Board of the County
Commissioners. It will be at 100 North
King at the County Commissioners’ office, and we will start at 7:00. And I make that a motion. All those in favor of that motion, say ‘aye’.
Members: Aye.
L. Young: I
make a motion that we…
Atty Beeker: He
did.
Attest:
Elizabeth W. Corn, Clerk to the Board Grady Hawkins,
Chairman